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Kizzy 06-10-2013 10:26 PM
The daily mail is run by nazis for nazis.

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415627)
Yeah, but I believe she said or did something to piss him off. He was driving a car at the time, do you really believe he just suddenly flipped out for absolutely no reason and took it out on Rihanna? That doesn't mean she deserved what he did to him and it doesn't excuse him at all, because beating someone up is wrong regardless of why it happened, but it's my belief that she provoked him. If he assaulted her for absolutely no reason, she wouldn't be with him.
Can't agree with that at all tbh, through things I've seen plenty of women have gone back to partners despite unprovoked attacks, for different reasons (believing that they've changed, trusting them again etc)

Vicky. 06-10-2013 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6415628)
The daily mail is run by nazis for nazis.
Is that controversial? I thought that was common knowledge :laugh:

Z 06-10-2013 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6415629)
Can't agree with that at all tbh, through things I've seen plenty of women have gone back to partners despite unprovoked attacks, for different reasons (believing that they've changed, trusting them again etc)
Immediately afterwards, sure. Maybe within a couple of months. Not several years later after a long time apart, and with him never laying a finger on her ever again after that. It was a one off until proven otherwise.

Me. I Am Salman 06-10-2013 10:28 PM
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Women are responsible for abuse they suffer if they provoke their partner.

Answer: False. Perpetrators of domestic abuse always have a choice about whether or not to use abuse, threats or other controlling behaviour or not in situations of conflict, discussions or arguments or simply where they want to get their own way. The victim may disagree with the perpetrators’ views, want to discuss a dispute in the household or wish to do something that the perpetrator doesn’t want her to do. That doesn’t mean she has provoked abuse, though this will often be the way victims, perpetrators and others describe it. (Source: Gondolf, 2002; Dobash et al, 2000)
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Z 06-10-2013 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6415633)
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I didn't say she was responsible, I said I can see why it happened. :)

King Gizzard 06-10-2013 10:30 PM
tuna sucks

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415631)
Immediately afterwards, sure. Maybe within a couple of months. Not several years later after a long time apart, and with him never laying a finger on her ever again after that. It was a one off until proven otherwise.
But it all comes down to that individual person, every case is different. If she did 'provoke' him, like what can happen in many relationships, he should have responded with words, not his fists.

MeMyselfAndI 06-10-2013 10:30 PM
I think Rats are cute

Z 06-10-2013 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6415640)
But it all comes down to that individual person, every case is different. If she did 'provoke' him, like what can happen in many relationships, he should have responded with words, not his fists.
Yes. I'm not disagreeing with you. I think you and Salman seem to think I'm a domestic abuse apologist. I'm not - what I'm saying is I think Rihanna has a nasty streak in her and now I can see why Chris Brown perhaps beat her up.

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415643)
Yes. I'm not disagreeing with you. I think you and Salman seem to think I'm a domestic abuse apologist. I'm not - what I'm saying is I think Rihanna has a nasty streak in her and now I can see why Chris Brown perhaps beat her up.
No I don't :laugh: I respect your view on it and it's nice to read another inlook into it, but imo nasty streak or not, it should never had been a reason for her to have her face smashed in.

Kizzy 06-10-2013 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6415630)
Is that controversial? I thought that was common knowledge :laugh:
:laugh2:

Z 06-10-2013 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6415645)
No I don't :laugh: I respect your view on it and it's nice to read another inlook into it, but imo nasty streak or not, it should never had been a reason for her to have her face smashed in.
Where did I say it was? All I said was I think she has a nasty streak and I think that's why he beat her up.

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415650)
Where did I say it was? All I said was I think she has a nasty streak and I think that's why he beat her up.
I never meant that you justified it.. don't worry lol this could go on for hours :laugh:

Drew. 06-10-2013 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415643)
Yes. I'm not disagreeing with you. I think you and Salman seem to think I'm a domestic abuse apologist. I'm not - what I'm saying is I think Rihanna has a nasty streak in her and now I can see why Chris Brown perhaps beat her up.
i cant believe this :joker:

Z 06-10-2013 10:39 PM
The response to my post is exactly what I mean though. People are too quick to write it off as a black and white situation where Chris Brown beat up Rihanna and that's all there is to it. Again, as I don't think people are getting this, I am not suggesting that she is to blame. I've been assaulted twice before in my life, I don't consider myself to be at fault for either situation.

Vicky. 06-10-2013 10:40 PM
I'm sure others have some opinions just as controversial as Zees, but they don't dare post them :whistle:

Z 06-10-2013 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6415660)
I'm sure others have some opinions just as controversial as Zees, but they don't dare post them :whistle:
I think so too :idc:

Kate! 06-10-2013 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6415660)
I'm sure others have some opinions just as controversial as Zees, but they don't dare post them :whistle:
I've got a couple, but I don't want stoning by the citizens of tibbland :laugh:

Ninastar 06-10-2013 10:42 PM
i hate davina and sharon osborne so much that if a comet flew from the sky and crushed them both into a billion pieces, i'd run around my town naked in happiness

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 6415657)
The response to my post is exactly what I mean though. People are too quick to write it off as a black and white situation where Chris Brown beat up Rihanna and that's all there is to it. Again, as I don't think people are getting this, I am not suggesting that she is to blame. I've been assaulted twice before in my life, I don't consider myself to be at fault for either situation.
I guess that we don't read into it because there isn't any real evidence in the first place. Couples will argue, bicker and what not, we've probably all witnessed it, with most partners being able to control their actions. Rihanna might be nasty or whatever, but neither of them have really duldged into what was said before hand, so it's anybodies guessing game.

Kizzy 06-10-2013 10:43 PM
come on you chickens! bok bok bok!

King Gizzard 06-10-2013 10:44 PM
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reece(: 06-10-2013 10:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YYdJPlr.jpg

Jake. 06-10-2013 10:45 PM
Tomatoes should never be classified as a fruit


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