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lostalex 03-03-2014 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739343)
At this time no blood has gone down
Putin is stronger than USA
he did not invade Iraq.

But he invaded Georgia at the last olympics if i remember correctly...

Novo 03-03-2014 04:57 AM

He was a small factor compared to Churchill and Stalin, Churchill destroyed them from the skies and Stalin sent Zhurkov and the troops into Berlin to end the war, a combined effort from Britain and Russia

lostalex 03-03-2014 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6739353)
He was a small factor compared to Churchill and Stalin, Churchill destroyed them from the skies and Stalin sent Zhurkov and the troops into Berlin to end the war, a combined effort from Britain and Russia

not really, Britain was losing before Churchill came to America on bended knee, begging FDR for help. remember that? Britain was Losing, you begged for our help, and we gave you help, and then we won. That's how i remember it./

you came begging to America because you were losing, and then we saved you. that's what happened.

They don't teach you those basic facts in English schools?

Novo 03-03-2014 05:07 AM

The way I remember it Churchill and Stalin were buddies on the highroad, the world was their Oyster and they were going to write history and double team Germany and take Hitler down and that's the way it all worked out, Russia and Britain took the fight to Hitler whilst America sent a handful of troops, everyone remembers the battle of Britian and everyone remembers Russia's surge into Berlin but no one remembers anything about America apart from savagely nuking Japan in the most cowardly attack in the history of time in comparison to Russia taking on Germany head first on the ground.

arista 03-03-2014 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739352)
But he invaded Georgia at the last olympics if i remember correctly...


Yes he had to due to Evil Terrorists

America/UK invaded Iraq for a Fecking Fake Reason

lostalex 03-03-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739381)
Yes he had to due to Evil Terrorists

America/UK invaded Iraq for a Fecking Fake Reason

it wasn't a fake reason... it was jus a continuation of the 90's war, we gave Saddam plenty of chances to prove he didn't have WMD's are we really going over this again???

you don't give a **** about the Iraqi people, so stop using them as an excuse for your support of Putin.

lostalex 03-03-2014 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novo (Post 6739357)
The way I remember it Churchill and Stalin were buddies on the highroad, the world was their Oyster and they were going to write history and double team Germany and take Hitler down and that's the way it all worked out, Russia and Britain took the fight to Hitler whilst America sent a handful of troops, everyone remembers the battle of Britian and everyone remembers Russia's surge into Berlin but no one remembers anything about America apart from savagely nuking Japan in the most cowardly attack in the history of time in comparison to Russia taking on Germany head first on the ground.

lol cowardly? so what do you call all of the kamikaze's?? you don't call that cowardly? the japanese invented modern TERRORISM> wake the **** up/

the japanese deserved the bomb. If anyone deserved a few nukes up their ass it was definitely japan. no doubt about that.

arista 03-03-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739400)
lol cowardly? so what do you call all of the kamikaze's?? you don't call that cowardly? the japanese invented modern TERRORISM> wake the **** up/

the japanese deserved the bomb. If anyone deserved a few nukes up their ass it was definitely japan. no doubt about that.


Evil Kamikaze was Brave
like the Evil crew from Saudi that did 9/11.

And yes Japan inspired many

But still for Top Electronics I will buy direct from Japan
more than China.

Yes a Nuke on Japan was needed
but America did to many
in order to test them.

arista 03-03-2014 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739397)
it wasn't a fake reason... it was jus a continuation of the 90's war, we gave Saddam plenty of chances to prove he didn't have WMD's are we really going over this again???

you don't give a **** about the Iraqi people, so stop using them as an excuse for your support of Putin.


It was Weapons of Mass Destruction
But None we ever found


Fake reason to Invade
Evil Bush/Blair

lostalex 03-03-2014 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739423)
Evil Kamikaze was Brave
like the Evil crew from Saudi that did 9/11.

And yes Japan inspired many

But still for Top Electronics I will buy direct from Japan
more than China.

Yes a Nuke on Japan was needed
but America did to many
in order to test them.

we tested them on our own soil before we ever dropped the bomb on japan. Technically the first country to ever be attacked with nuclear weapons was the US, not Japan.

anyways it's stupid to even talk about. obvious the USA saved the world in ww2 with the nuclear bombs. Japan is a very successful country BECAUSE of America, South Korea is very Successful because of America, all of western Europe lis very successful because of America... there's no way to dispute any of this. America saved the world after ww2.

Russia on the other hand, tried to ruin the world after ww2.

arista 03-03-2014 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739427)
we tested them on our own soil before we ever dropped the bomb on japan. Technically the first country to ever be attacked with nuclear weapons was the US, not Japan.

That was in Blank Zone Deserts - You having a Laugh

They wanted the Death Count
and they got it.

lostalex 03-03-2014 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739430)
That was in Blank Zone Deserts - You having a Laugh

They wanted the Death Count
and they got it.

no, we only targeted militarily significant points. Unfortunately, Japan was cowardly, and put their strategic resources in the middle of heavily populated areas.

Just like Muslims are cowardly these days, and surround themselves with women and children, thinking it will be a human shield.

arista 03-03-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739431)
no, we only targeted militarily significant points. Unfortunately, Japan was cowardly, and put their strategic resources in the middle of heavily populated areas.

Just like Muslims are cowardly these days, and surround themselves with women and children, thinking it will be a human shield.


Cowards are the Current USA President
who murders public and terrorist in one
Drone evil bomb
He is doing more Drones than Bush wanted to.

lostalex 03-03-2014 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739432)
Cowards are the Current USA President
who murders public and terrorist in one
Drone evil bomb
He is doing more Drones than Bush wanted to.

i definitely disagree with you about that. no need to even elaborate, we just disagree completely on that lol.

arista 03-03-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6739436)
i definitely disagree with you about that. no need to even elaborate, we just disagree completely on that lol.


Yes we are in 2 Worlds


I am against American Drones that Kill Public at the same time of a terrorist

You Do not give a Feck about the public
killed by USA Evil Drones

lostalex 03-03-2014 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6739438)
Yes we are in 2 Worlds


I am against Drones that Kill Public at the same time of a terrorist

You Do not give a Feck about the public
killed by USA Evil Drones

no country has done more to invest in technology and strategies than the USA to avoid civilian casualties in war. The USA is a saint in that regard. No country has ever done it better.

Avoiding civilian casualties is something America can definitely be proud of.

lostalex 03-03-2014 07:42 AM

bye arista, time for me to get some rest from this weary world, i get to have some fun in fantasy. g'night.

sweet dreams for me..., hopefully some day soon for Ukrainians too...


Nedusa 03-03-2014 02:23 PM

+++++ Breaking News +++++
Russia's Black Sea Fleet has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 5:00 local time (03:00 GMT) on Tuesday to surrender or face an all-out assault, according to Ukrainian defence ministry sources quoted by Interfax-Ukraine news agency. "If by 5am tomorrow morning they do not surrender a real assault will begin on units and sections of the Ukrainian armed forces all over Crimea," defence ministry officials are quoted as saying. So far there is no further confirmation of the ultimatum from other sources.

Looks like the Russians are quite serious about defending their military assets in the Crimea.....

This is like a game of Poker with very very high stakes....!!!!!!

Brother Leon 03-03-2014 02:34 PM

Arista preaching the truth.

Z 03-03-2014 02:39 PM

I honestly have no idea what's going to happen next. I think the world will give in to Russia's domineering tactics and it's going to cause one hell of a legislative reaction within the EU, NATO and all other pre-existing anti-Russia organisations. It's a pity my dissertation is due in April because I suspect that there will be a great deal of measures taken against Russian interference that'll be led by Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.

Nedusa 03-03-2014 03:09 PM

Don't forget the Crimea was a Russian Province within the USSR until 1954 when Nikita Kruschev gave it to the Ukraine.

So when the USSR broke up in 1991 Crimea became part of the Ukraine even though 60% of the Population are Russian.

This caused great anger in Russia which still exists to this day. But the Black sea Naval bases in Sevastopol are Russia's main priority, the new govt in Kiev is threatening to renege on a treaty that allows Russia free movement of it's troops to it's military bases.

This is the red line that Russia must uphold, it must have unfettered access to it's military bases so to be honest the West has meddled in the affairs of Ukraine probably to achieve this very outcome.

Very dangerous game to play............

Z 03-03-2014 03:13 PM

Most countries that were under the USSR sphere of influence have an irrational fear of Russia's ability to wade into their territory at any time and not have the West do anything about it, that fear was especially aggravated in 2008 when Russia strolled into Georgia for five days and scared the daylights of every former Soviet Union territory that they could be next. That Russia has sent in the big boys to the Crimea now is not surprising, and again, because Ukraine's not part of institutional Europe's sphere of influence, nothing is being done. I fully expect to see gas market reforms being pushed onto the agenda once again by former USSR EU members who are rationally yet irrationally afraid that Russia can and will do this to them too.

Nedusa 03-03-2014 03:21 PM

I don't think this situation will cause the return of the "cold War" this situation is more likely to go "hot" very quickly

Z 03-03-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6739800)
I don't think this situation will cause the return of the "cold War" this situation is more likely to go "hot" very quickly

If it turns hot, it'll be between Ukraine and Russia. The Western world has, for the last 70 years, set in place a variety of measures to ensure that the great world powers never go to war against each other ever again. Of course, many will argue that if the USA, UK et al can wade into Iraq or Afghanistan then Russia can wade into Ukraine to protect its interests and its people. It's no less a legitimate thing to do than going in to fight terrorism or find weapons of mass destruction. Russia has a huge population of ethnic Russians living in the Crimea and if the Ukraine is experiencing civil unrest then Russia will defend its peoples' interests.

arista 03-03-2014 03:35 PM

Yes Zee the press Hype it up.

Whats all this people with "save me " signs (on the Free Metro)

Save them from what ?
no blood yet.

Bloody American President has enough of a mess back home
he can not Stop Putin.

Typical Hype Photo
http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg


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