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Josy 28-06-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 6991970)
They are doing it because there are less females they won't let males have power ,I don't see the problem this is just being dragged and dragged they can do whatever they want

Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

Firewire 28-06-2014 07:45 PM

Sexism towards men doesn't exist

Samm 28-06-2014 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6991997)
Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

k

Gerbil901 28-06-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6992009)
Sexism towards men doesn't exist

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Firewire 28-06-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbil901 (Post 6992023)
It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Oh my god, is this for real? :facepalm:

Samm 28-06-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6991997)
Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house

Gerbil901 28-06-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6992037)
Oh my god, is this for real? :facepalm:

There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

Firewire 28-06-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbil901 (Post 6992045)
There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.

Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.

Macie Lightfoot 28-06-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbil901 (Post 6992023)
It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

smeagol 28-06-2014 08:03 PM

its a slap in the face to every bb fan. and evrybody who has voted .
no way i will ever vote on bb again while they continue to treat the public like twats

Firewire 28-06-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6992056)
Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

:worship:

jyunga 28-06-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesy (Post 6990793)
I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. s

All Big Brothers try to create a diverse cast so that different groups within the public can find someone they enjoy watching. If you suddenly have all the women getting kicked outta the house you're going to lose dynamics that would entice people to watch the show and lose viewers. If more girls keep going they are going to end up with only one option; adding more females into the house (which would probably be more interesting in the long run anyways: P)

Gerbil901 28-06-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6992055)
Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.

Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.

This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.

Firewire 28-06-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbil901 (Post 6992105)
This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.

What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.

Josy 28-06-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 6992043)
oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house

This is to do with the twist we had last night, feel free to make a thread about anything else you think is discrimination.

And its fantastic that you have decided who in the house I like when I haven't even decided myself and made a thread saying as much :umm2:

MeMyselfAndI 28-06-2014 09:12 PM

I actually can't at people saying this is sexism :joker:

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

flamingGalah! 28-06-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 6992123)
What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.

Erm, I'm pretty sure they can & do... And plenty of women objectify men too, so yeah... Men don't get periods, but lets not pretend that men get it any easier than women...

Vicky. 28-06-2014 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 6992488)
I actually can't at people saying this is sexism :joker:

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender :shrug:

joeysteele 28-06-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6992605)
It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender :shrug:

Good point, I agree with all that Vicky.

Shaun 28-06-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by troynuncdicit (Post 6992056)
Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

you're thinking of institutional rac/sexism.

it's entirely possible to be an individual sexist or racist. there'd literally be no other word if some black dude who decided to keep saying "whites are disgusting" or w/e.

newsbb 29-06-2014 12:01 AM

best twist so fat tbh

mrflibble 29-06-2014 03:16 AM

At first I didn't like it because I thought it was unfair. If the male housemates are better than the female housemates and the females are getting voted out then maybe there's a reason. BUT, since the theme is power trip and the nominations have been unfair every week, this kind of thing does fit in.

Ammi 29-06-2014 03:29 AM

..it's possibly sexism and maybe to even out the sexes but that would still be sexism because people haven't voted housemates out because of their sex, they're voted them out because they like them the least regardless..I don't think we can say sexism definitely though until we know if the guys will get some similar power later on....

JTM45 29-06-2014 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 6990759)
It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable

Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly! :bored:

Ammi 29-06-2014 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6993282)
Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly! :bored:

..really good post JTM...I think with the last bit..?..I've always thought, yeah it's ok if this is how they want it/like a different 'hero/villian' type BB which is edited to lead the public and manipulate their thoughts ..but I would rather it be called something different/change in other ways so that we can judge it differently and not always compare it to the old style, which we naturally do...


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