why in gods name did you quoute that

Because I can?

My apologies...thought it would be easier to rebut...but it was a bad idea!!!

Im not after you. I just dont like Hopkins.

She knew this show was made for her and i just like that Perez annoys her. Cami, Kav, Calum, Chloe, and most disappointingly, Michelle have sucked her asshole cause they wanted to be popular. Sad.

I agree in much in what you are saying, from a personal point of view. However the choice to chose not to say something myself is a personal one I can make for myself. Not a choice I can, should or will place onto others.

One of the reasons I like Katie is she choses to say something offensive, I can respect her for making that choice (Without having to agree with what she said). Throughout history examples can be shown where a society who do not actively exercise a right find themselves losing that right. It is a slippery road once you start on it.

Rights use them or lose them.

Now I accept your point about not being offended yourself, I get that But the definition of spite is.

spite

noun
1.
a desire to hurt, annoy, or offend someone.

Hurt, annoy or offend are linked and unfortunately some will take offence and or be hurt. Is that nice, no it is not. However imho a small price to pay considering the alternative.

So spite for its own sake does have a intrinsic if unfortunate value.

I kind of agree with you...here's my take.

Cami, Calum and Chloe line up behind Hopkins because they dislike Perez....and Nadia, Alicia and to some degree Patsy, line up behind Perez because they dislike Hopkins.

I think Kav and Michelle sucked up to Hopkins because of the crowd response and to be popular.

There are literally millions of people on Twitter spreading her brand of "truth" about gays, muslims, disabled and poor people!

At least she'd have been entertaining if she'd had the guts to say some of that stuff in the house, instead of playing an angry elderly posh woman

its called blinkers - her fans think it is amazing to say what we are thinking when infarct he is embarrassing herself.

katie my darling - lost all credibility - not that you had much.

Do you have an example of something negative she has said on twitter about the gay community, I would imagine if she had it would have been mentioned before now?

So she is honest when she says she loves all the British public yet has told us before how she hates all the Scottish

all the northerners

fat people are all just cos their lazy

how she immediately says being left wing is wrong

just like most on tv who try to stifle debate by left wingers before it starts

she attacks all these people which together may be over 50 % of the british public,

tells stupid generalizations about them,so tells lies about them as a group

then tells us how she loves all the british public

and you tell us she tells the truth ?

:clap1:

You mean how stupid anyone is for not realising how her generalizations and spreading hate about groups of people,and raising her profile and worshipping her on BB can help the far right ?

These are just some of her good points, you should back your arguments up by mentioning some of her bad ones.:laugh:

Could you please define "Far Right" cheers.

This just isn't true. People say what they think all the time on the interweb or at least as much as they are allowed to without getting banned. Just because Katie has been given a platform within a newspaper that constantly demonises the working classes, doesn't make her the only person to voice exactly what she's thinking. I go on a few political forums; one is totally uncensored. People say what they want about anything, regardless of how it insults or offends others. The problem is, when uncensored material like that is open to discussion, it just becomes a cluster ***** of emotional terrorism. Other than KH having a wider audience doesn't make her any different to others who use none moderated forums.

The only thing that bothers me about KH and her network of supporters is; is this outwardly encouraging people to put tact and moral values on the back burner? and that is something I would love to have a discussion about.

^^^^this