I hope BB17 cast is good tbh, and i really hope they don't go oh look there's a villain let's shove them down the viewers throats so it's entertaining, when really for me it's not even great tv its just boring and annoying.

Yeah. I actually liked Zoe. I get annoyed when people say she was fake, just because she was bubbly and nice. Also, how she was vilified for that comment, when Gina was championed for her Primark comment, the year before.

She would've done better in another series I reckon. BB15 was one of the many series where it was Originals vs. Newbies, with the originals trying to turf out the newbies. That's why Pav and Zoe faced eviction every week they were in the house.

I have really high hopes for BB17, they surely must have learnt what they are doing wrong by now?

It's almost like they want the show to flop.

Also the question on the survey about the themes makes me think they won't be coming back next year.

lol at people being optimistic for BB17 when will ya learn

expect the unexpected bab

I mean at this point it can't get any worse so the only way is up?

I just noticed something.

C4 was good with BB.
C5 is goo with CBB..

C4 had it's BB golden era in 2004-2006.

C5 started it's CBB golden era in 2014 (10 years after 2004 - C4's BB golden era). Therefore, I think CBB17 (2016) will be the last good CBB on C5.

CBB9-CBB13 was C5's equivalent of the golden years imo

Downhill from now.

With or without BB?

I loved CBB13 it's a shame it had 2 sexist pigs for a final 2 tho

With

Like, 13 and 14 are definitely the best two civilian series from C5, like not many will disagree and CBB9 was a lot better than 15 imo

Worst Final 3 ever I wanted to gouge my eyes out

CBB15 was great tho

BB6, since you are rewatching CBB3 now, do you prefer it to CBB13?

Didn't Legend Luisa come third tho

I do think CBB9 was better than CBB15, but I also loved 15 and think it's better than 13 (which I personally don't get the love for).

She was fourth. :bawling:

I really do hope BB17 is good.

It'd be nice to have a good overall year of BB, with all 3 series being good. So far over the last year, we've had two great January CBB series (13 and 15) only to be followed by two awful BB's in the summer (15 and 16)

4th - she's lucky she made it that far

she came 4th </3

Lets be honest, Luisa probably had the fewest votes to save in that first eviction, so the Casey and Lee twist literally made that series good.

Trash I completely forgot Ollie was even in it I had to perch wiki for who came third :joker:

I actually don't know. But, CBB3 is amazing on re-watch. I love it just as much as I did 10 years ago.

I think I'd still put CBB13 above it. But CBB3 is a close third.

Yh I agree