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Kazanne 09-01-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8407072)
Think this is a VERY unfair comment here mind Jack. I think Winston was treat appallingly and blatantly set up for the fall. I disagree completely with his views too. And gay people do not scare me either.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

MrWong 09-01-2016 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8407130)
She backtracked on it when actually speaking to him. A big fuss about nothing...

It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.

Beso 09-01-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8407152)
It was shown on the highlights that he was leering.

He wasnt doing a good job of it considering he was shouting her name at the same time. To me he was wanting to apolgise and explain himself from their earlier discussion about him refusing to share a bed with a man.:shrug:

Vicky. 09-01-2016 04:20 PM

I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.

jet 09-01-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407096)
I don't even agree with gay marriage.

Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407252)
Why should anyone be denied a human right because the way they were born though? It's saying that 2 people can't legalize their love and commitment to sharing their life with each other because they were born 'different' to what society deems as acceptable. Isn't that just cruel?

Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.

jet 09-01-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407261)
Your post assumes people are born gay and it also assumes that marriage is a "human right." I disagree with both.

Naughty me. Emma should come and give a good patronising telling off.

I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407288)
I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.


Being innate doesn't make something desirable.

sampvt 09-01-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407288)
I'm not assuming anything. Sexual orientation is largely or entirely determined by our genes and hormonal influences in the womb.
There are wide-ranging evidence from dozens of scientific studies on homosexuality. They conclude that sexual orientation is overwhelmingly innate.

I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

jet 09-01-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407317)
Being innate doesn't make something desirable.

It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.

jet 09-01-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8407348)
I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

That's called denial and being in the closet.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407360)
It being innate means they should have the same human rights as heterosexuals as they didn't choose their sexual orientation.

But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

chuff me dizzy 09-01-2016 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8407348)
I disagree, I know quite a few gay men who have had happy marriages and have kids but they turned very late in life. God only knows why but I am sure there are a few experts on here that will put me right.

Thats true Sam i too know lots of "Gay" men who have had children, therefore kicking out "You can't help the way you are born " BS

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 05:11 PM

I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

chuff me dizzy 09-01-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407376)
I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Same here, Ive popped the kettle on in case she calls in mine ,Im very sociable

Shaun 09-01-2016 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407376)
I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

And I think that sums you up...

jet 09-01-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407372)
But I have seen research showing that psychopathy is innate. Should psychopaths have all their human rights and be kept out of jail because they didn't choose to be psychopaths?

Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.

jet 09-01-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407376)
I have always believed that sexuality is a choice.

Can I expect Emma round to tell me off?

Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?

Kazanne 09-01-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8407201)
I don't get why she didn't actually speak to him about it either, she is not exactly backwards in coming forwards. Also she made out as if it wasn't even an issue when it was spoken about outside of the diary room?


Sorry, on this one I actually do agree with Winston. If you are so concerned about men looking at you when you undress, do not undress infront of a room full of them. Its quite simple really...

And I don't think this is sexist either before that starts, as I would think the exact same if a guy was moaning about one of the girls 'leering' at him while he got changed in the middle of the main room.

:cheer2: Your on form today Vicky,well said.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407398)
Dear God, why are you comparing psychopaths to gay people? Psychopaths are a danger to others so I don't get your point AT ALL.

Sigh.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407422)
Would you ever think of challenging your own beliefs by doing some research on the subject?

What research would you suggest?

reece(: 09-01-2016 05:36 PM

Using facebook to back up claims :joker::joker:

jet 09-01-2016 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407463)
Sigh.

As you have nothing to say, I take it you have come to your senses.

jet 09-01-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8407468)
What research would you suggest?

Online?

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8407474)
Online?


Could you point me to the research papers you have read?


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