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Livia 20-01-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8440523)
It's like when the black lady was cast as Hermione and the whole backlash it got showed how there is still a way to go.

Hermione is essentially a race neutral character and the kicking off about it was ridiculous.

In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444444)
In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.



http://time.com/4156751/jk-rowling-b...mione-granger/

GiRTh 20-01-2016 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444444)
In the Potter books, Hermoine came back from France with a suntan. Hardly race neutral.

Not according to J K Rowling.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b014efe0d6389c

Livia 20-01-2016 12:44 PM

So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

I recall also that JK Rowling retained the right of having a say in casting when she sold the film rights and was directly involved in casting Harry, Ron and Hermoine
. As there are other black characters in the book, I'm surprised that she didn't ensure Hermoine was played by a black actress.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444464)
So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

2 shakey references and suddenly Hermoine can never be played by a black actor? Also I'm pretty sure black people blush too

Alf 20-01-2016 12:47 PM

Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

Livia 20-01-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444476)
Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

No he is not race-neutral. He is white in the books. But what's more, a black man could not integrate in the places that James Bond did. A black Bond would be a terrible spy. What's more, Bond is an established character.

How about we have a white Luthur next time?

Livia 20-01-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8444474)
2 shakey references and suddenly Hermoine can never be played by a black actor? Also I'm pretty sure black people blush too

I added another bit to my comment after you wrote this.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444482)
No he is not race-neutral. He is white in the books. But what's more, a black man could not integrate in the places that James Bond did. A black Bond would be a terrible spy. What's more, Bond is an established character.

How about we have a white Luthur next time?

Is he Scottish or Irish or English in the books?

GiRTh 20-01-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444476)
Is James Bond race neutral?

Because I hear Idris Elba is being considered.

If Idris get the role then he would be one of the best actors to have ever played the part. Should we rule him out just because he doesn't fit into the characters ethnicity even though he's a superior actor?

Niamh. 20-01-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8444464)
So the reference to her getting a suntan, and her face flushing red... they just mean nothing now.

I recall also that JK Rowling retained the right of having a say in casting when she sold the film rights and was directly involved in casting Harry, Ron and Hermoine
. As there are other black characters in the book, I'm surprised that she didn't ensure Hermoine was played by a black actress.

why would she? sounds to me like she just wasn't bothered whether Hermoine was played by a black or a white actress?

Alf 20-01-2016 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8444511)
If Idris get the role then he would be one of the best actors to have ever played the part. Should we rule him out just because he doesn't fit into the characters ethnicity even though he's a superior actor?

No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

GiRTh 20-01-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444544)
No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

Nelson Mandela is not a fictional character.

Niamh. 20-01-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444544)
No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

Don't be silly, Nelson Mandela is a real historic figure, James Bond is not, him being white isn't vital to the story

Ammi 20-01-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444544)
No one will ever top Sir Roger as Bond.

So you believe a White actor should have been considered for the role of Nelson Mandella? That's what the second part of your statement says to me?

..there is a huge difference though wanna, with a fictional character and someone in real life...

Alf 20-01-2016 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8444548)
Nelson Mandela is not a fictional character.

You didn't say fictional.

GiRTh 20-01-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444553)
You didn't say fictional.

Did I need to say that? I thought you would assume. :thumbs:

Alf 20-01-2016 01:07 PM

Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

Ammi 20-01-2016 01:08 PM

..oh, must type quicker...I know it was just a one off character..(unless there are sequels..)...but Denzel recently played the lead in The Equalizer..I hadn't actually realised that it was based on the old series but that character was white in the series and Denzel stepped into the role beautifully, without any thought really other than to his acting...(it was a bit naff and corny I have to say/the movie but you know what I mean..)..

GiRTh 20-01-2016 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444567)
Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

If he was good enough and could carry the part then yes. I would have no problem with it.

Ammi 20-01-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444567)
Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

..not when it's about something with a predominantly black population but that's it though isn't it...black actors seem to mainly get parts which would be specific to that..not so much the 'neutral' parts....

Niamh. 20-01-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444567)
Ok do you think a White actor should have been considered for the lead role in Boyz and the Hood?

Been along time since I watched that movie but isn't Boyz n the hood specifically about racial issues? That would be like saying a black guy could play Edward Nortons character in American History X............clearly not. However could a white guy play Will Smiths part in I Am Legend? Absolutely

Alf 20-01-2016 01:23 PM

silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.

Ammi 20-01-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444641)
silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.


...:laugh:...yeah well we didn't like to say/awkward moment passed...

Niamh. 20-01-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag (Post 8444641)
silly me calling it Boyz And the hood, you know I mean n


I am a first class turd sometimes.

Is that a dig at me? :/ I knew what you meant, I never said otherwise :shrug:


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