Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8755103)

At the end of the day girls no one's gonna die

The world will still turn and the birds will still sing in the morning X

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755114)

The things that had been promised as positives in this scenario have, since the results came through, all been withdrawn as facts. Immigration isn't going to be affected and the NHS is going to see none of this apparent extra money we'll be getting. The parties involved and the media have used the public's fears to get the, apparently unlikely ,result they wanted
Sorry but in no universe was this the lesser of two evils - if Remain had won, we would have had the option to vote again if it all went to **** after staying. This way, we're not getting that chance again. That's it. We're out. There's no going back from this. If it all goes to **** from here....tough. We now are at a risk of losing Scotland and probably Northern Ireland so we'll be even smaller as an independent country. The chances of people of our generation owning our own houses is now through the floor because the value of the pound has taken a bigger nose dive than any currency in history. I don't see how this can possibly be a good thing? The fact that there is a genuine confusion about all these facts and figures that have come through is proof that a vast majority of the leavers had absolutely no clue what they were voting for.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755132)

But we were already "in" and it had all already gone to sh*t.

It's not about "that's it", new terms could be agreed in future years if it comes to that. There's also the possibility of a second referendum. It's not all black and white. We didn't join in 5 minutes, we won't leave in 5 minutes.

If Northern Ireland and Scotland want to do that, good for them. I'd rather our countries make their own decisions no matter how small rather than bowing down to a small elite.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755132)

But we were already "in" and it had all already gone to sh*t.

It's not about "that's it", new terms could be agreed in future years if it comes to that. There's also the possibility of a second referendum. It's not all black and white. We didn't join in 5 minutes, we won't leave in 5 minutes.

If Northern Ireland and Scotland want to do that, good for them. I'd rather our countries make their own decisions no matter how small rather than bowing down to a small elite.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755148)

But do you realise what a step to the right this actually is? The type of people who actually wanted this to happen are Farage - the leader of UKIP, Donald Trump, the man who has stated that if he made president he will banish ALL Muslims from his country, Putin, the man who has made homosexuality illegal in his country and Marine Le Pen, the extreme far right leader of France who has now put a picture of the Union Jack as her profile picture on all her social media sites. This is about SO much more than the UK making their own decisions...this is a statement about how pretty much exactly half (unfortunately a few more than not) think about immigration and unity. Does that not worry you about the future?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8755149)

The UK is going to be even more in the grips of a small elite for at least the next two decades, though.

I would be all for Brexit if we had the sort of politics in this country that was ACTUALLY going to make it work for most people. We don't. We have elitists who are keen to cosy up to countries like China and India, who treat people like cattle and work them to the bone for pitiful wages. Great if you're one of those at the top. If not, you now have absolutely no buffer between you and those who would (and will) happily exploit you until the day you die.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755114)

The things that had been promised as positives in this scenario have, since the results came through, all been withdrawn as facts. Immigration isn't going to be affected and the NHS is going to see none of this apparent extra money we'll be getting. The parties involved and the media have used the public's fears to get the, apparently unlikely ,result they wanted
Sorry but in no universe was this the lesser of two evils - if Remain had won, we would have had the option to vote again if it all went to **** after staying. This way, we're not getting that chance again. That's it. We're out. There's no going back from this. If it all goes to **** from here....tough. We now are at a risk of losing Scotland and probably Northern Ireland so we'll be even smaller as an independent country. The chances of people of our generation owning our own houses is now through the floor because the value of the pound has taken a bigger nose dive than any currency in history. I don't see how this can possibly be a good thing? The fact that there is a genuine confusion about all these facts and figures that have come through is proof that a vast majority of the leavers had absolutely no clue what they were voting for.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8754990)

So proud of London who voted overwhelmingly to remain. :clap1: also Boris being booed .. fantastic

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755160)

That elite are still democratically elected. I'd take that over the EU anyway tbqh.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755156)

Not really. My own vote/decision had sod all to do with the likes of Trump. Or Katie Hopkins for that matter.

Remaining or leaving affects a hell of a lot more than one aspect of this country so certain people voting one way for a particular agenda/angle on both sides shouldn't really enter someone's mind when choosing their own path. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755165)

So how does the value of the pound disintegrating and the rest of Europe turning their back on us constitute as a good move?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8755164)

We currently effectively have a one-party system. Going forward, they'll be no more democratically elected than an African warlord who only puts his own name on the ballot.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755169)

Europe weren't "with" us anyway let's be honest.

And the value of the pound isn't a consequence of leaving, it's a separate issue.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755169)

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And the value of the pound isn't a consequence of leaving, it's a separate issue.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8755151)

Like with the last election, I look forward to how quickly people will change their tune when they realise they've made a terrible mistake. Facebook shall be fun.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755174)

The pound went lower and lower as more results came in throughout the night, how is it a separate issue? :laugh:

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8755148)

But do you realise what a step to the right this actually is? The type of people who actually wanted this to happen are Farage - the leader of UKIP, Donald Trump, the man who has stated that if he made president he will banish ALL Muslims from his country, Putin, the man who has made homosexuality illegal in his country and Marine Le Pen, the extreme far right leader of France who has now put a picture of the Union Jack as her profile picture on all her social media sites. This is about SO much more than the UK making their own decisions...this is a statement about how pretty much exactly half (unfortunately a few more than not) think about immigration and unity. Does that not worry you about the future?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8755179)

i think looking to facebook to gauge the political pulse of the UK could be your problem..

:idc:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8755182)

Putin Penn and Trump are nothing to do with UK politics - that is twitter nonsense

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755181)

It dropped lower a few weeks ago. It's always up and down.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8755149)

The UK is going to be even more in the grips of a small elite for at least the next two decades, though.

I would be all for Brexit if we had the sort of politics in this country that was ACTUALLY going to make it work for most people. We don't. We have elitists who are keen to cosy up to countries like China and India, who treat people like cattle and work them to the bone for pitiful wages. Great if you're one of those at the top. If not, you now have absolutely no buffer between you and those who would (and will) happily exploit you until the day you die.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8755181)

It dropped lower a few weeks ago. It's always up and down.