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Tom4784 10-01-2017 03:31 PM

You can always tell when someone hits the target right on the mark because of the lengths the opposition will go to discredit it.

Donald Trump DID make fun of a disabled person on a Rally stage surrounded by cameras, he has mocked families of dead soldiers and has spoken ill about prisoners of War. He lead a campaign to rile up the bigots and the easily led against a vulnerable demographic that isn't to blame for America's woes and in the process he's only consolidated those issues by gathering a cabinet of 1%ers and bigots.

His actions SINCE becoming President-Elect is worrisome, he's already lied about the mount of jobs that he has brought back to America and he's shown a dangerous disregard for Freedom of the Press and his chief concern seems to be crying on Twitter over the fact that not everyone likes him.

Obama once described Sarah Palin as a pig in a wig and it makes me sad that America has decided to elect one as it's president.

Amy Jade 10-01-2017 03:35 PM

What makes me laugh most is people who support Trump seem to think an actress should not make any comments in reguards to politics...yet Trump is a reality star. :laugh:

Marsh. 10-01-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9139953)
What makes me laugh most is people who support Trump seem to think an actress should not make any comments in reguards to politics...yet Trump is a reality star. [emoji23]

This.
Streep is giving her opinion as every person on the planet us permitted.

She's not put herself forward for one of, if not the most powerful, positions in the world and couldn't run a bath. It's so laughable it couldn't be made up.

Crimson Dynamo 10-01-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9139983)
This.
Streep is giving her opinion as every person on the planet us permitted.

She's not put herself forward for one of, if not the most powerful, positions in the world and couldn't run a bath. It's so laughable it couldn't be made up.

anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them

Tom4784 10-01-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9139993)
anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them

And Donald Trump is neither given how he mocks the disabled and uses minorities as scapegoats instead of confronting issues head on,

Marsh. 10-01-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9139993)
anyone can point out problems

its the brave and the good that solve them

Yeah we'll see how many he solves.

"Build a wall" ok lad.

Adamw92 10-01-2017 04:16 PM

Can't believe this is a man about to run one of the biggest countries in the world. I've seen children acting more mature than him. Once again, well done America. :clap1: :laugh2:

Crimson Dynamo 10-01-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9140023)
And Donald Trump is neither given how he mocks the disabled and uses minorities as scapegoats instead of confronting issues head on,

so far he has brought thousands of jobs in

all this was said about Reagan, you are too young to remember

turned out he was pretty good

Tom4784 10-01-2017 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9140093)
so far he has brought thousands of jobs in

all this was said about Reagan, you are too young to remember

turned out he was pretty good

He said he brought a thousand jobs back to the US through a deal with Carrier but most of those jobs he 'saved' were never going to be moved to Mexico in the first place, at best he saved a few hundred jobs and that miniscule achievement has been overridden by the fact he lied about the numbers.

As for your point about Reagan....

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9139205)
Classic common sense :clap1:

This is a post you made agreeing with what Kazanne was saying about actors staying out of political issues...You are aware that Reagan was a Hollywood actor, are you not? Perhaps you should do some reading up on him before you patronise people.

The difference between Reagan and Trump is that Reagan was actually a competent politician that earned his stripes. Donald Trump is a manchild that mocks disabled people and won because he appealed to the ignorant and bigoted.

Alf 10-01-2017 09:59 PM

There's a time and a place to rant about your political views, an awards ceremony to celebrate entertainment isn't the time.

Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

Why does she think her political opinion should be shared with the people who just tuned in to watch an awards show?

She and other Hollywood monsters are so far away from the real World.

Tom4784 10-01-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9141431)
There's a time and a place to rant about your political views, an awards ceremony to celebrate entertainment isn't the time.

Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

Why does she think her political opinion should be shared with the people who just tuned in to watch an awards show?

She and other Hollywood monsters are so far away from the real World.

There's a time and a place for jokes but that didn't stop one being elected President.

Award shows often become political, it's always the people who are opposed to what is being said that object and they object by acting like it isn''t the time or place for politics.

Again, Trump considered £1million dollars to be a 'small loan' so why should he pretend to speak for the people when he has no idea what life is like for anybody without an inheritance? Seems a bit off to be down with Trump but take exception to Meryl Streep.

MB. 10-01-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9141431)
Meryl Streep, who's lived her life staying in the best hotels in the World, dines at the finest restaurants in the World, all for free mind. Has people working for her, doing her cooking and cleaning and sorting her taxes for her.

I would mention that you could say exactly the same thing about Trump (who's just been elected as the "anti-establishment voice of the people" which, don't make me laugh) but I can't, because he doesn't pay his taxes in the first place :)

Kizzy 10-01-2017 10:13 PM

I'm not a celeb luvvie and I thought exactly the same about his performance.

Livia 11-01-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9139948)
You can always tell when someone hits the target right on the mark because of the lengths the opposition will go to discredit it.

Quote of the week for me.

Crimson Dynamo 11-01-2017 12:56 PM

When HYPOCRITE Streep gave a standing ovation to a child Rapist
 
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:rolleyes:

Brilliant article on the Streep speech by Piers Morgan

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Last night, Streep received a Lifetime Achievement award at the Golden Globes, and chose the moment to launch a very personal attack on Donald Trump.

She began by saying that Hollywood, foreigners and the press are ‘the most vilified segments of American society right now’.

At which point the cameras panned out to hundreds of the richest, most privileged people in American society sitting in the audience in their $10,000 tuxedos and $20,000 dresses, loudly cheering this acknowledgement of their dreadful victimhood.

She then said that if all the ‘outsiders and foreigners’ were kicked out of Hollywood, ‘you’ll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts.’

Wow.

I haven’t heard such elitist snobbery since Hillary Clinton branded Trump supporters ‘a basket of deplorables’.

For your information, Ms Streep, tens of millions of ordinary Americans love football and the MMA and would be quite happy watching their favourite sports at the expense of the next Woody Allen film.

Her real target, though, was Trump. She’d come to take him down, and that is exactly what she proceeded to do.

‘There were many powerful performances this year that did breathtaking, compassionate work,’ she said. ‘But there was one performance that stunned me. It sank it hooks in my heart, not because it was good – there’s nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege and power and the capacity to fight back.’

Meryl’s bottom lip began to tremble.

‘It kind of broke my heart when I saw it,’ she cried, ‘and I still can’t get it out of my head. This instinct to humiliate when it’s modelled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, filters down into everybody’s life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing.’

Hmmm.

Really, Meryl?

For starters, the incident to which she referred didn’t happen last year, it happened in 2015. There’s even been another Golden Globes in between then and now, at which it was never mentioned.

Second, Trump has always furiously denied – and has again today on Twitter - he was mocking the reporter’s disability and a Conservative website produced video evidence of numerous other instances where he made the exact same gesture to fully able-bodied people when attacking them. (See here and decide for yourself)

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Third, the reporter is hardly a powerless individual with ‘no capacity to fight back’; he’s a long-time Pulitzer-prize winning investigative journalist at the New York Times, a paper that’s trashed Trump for decades.

But putting all that to one side for a moment – and if Trump WAS mocking a man’s disability then I agree it was disgraceful - let’s move to what Streep said next: ‘Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.’

At this point, I laughed out loud with incredulity.

Not at the words themselves, which are laudable.

No, it was at the hypocrisy.

You’d be hard-pushed to find an industry that encourages more disrespect and violence than Hollywood.

A place where rich powerful people make billions of dollars by regularly pandering to the lowest common denominators of sexism, racism, homophobia and misogyny.

And happily exploit ever more hideous, graphic violence to make a fast, easy buck.

And seethe from every tinsel-encrusted pore with the very kind of nasty, power-based bullying that Meryl Streep claims to be so incensed by in Trump.

So great though her censorious words indisputably are, they would be perhaps better directed at her own back yard.

To highlight just one example of Streep’s shocking hypocrisy, what about the 2003 Oscars when she leaped to her feet and gave child rapist Roman Polanski a standing ovation after he was announced as winner of Best Director for The Pianist?

She was joined by numerous superstars in the room, many of whom were also seen on camera last night applauding and cheering as Streep attacked Trump’s supposed immorality.

Clearly, their collective high moral values are a movable feast.

At the end of her speech, Streep launched a passionate defense of the press. ‘They’ll need us to safeguard the truth,’ she said.

Now, I’ve been a journalist for over 30 years. I love my industry, warts and all, and I welcome any support.

But when it comes to the truth, many parts of America’s media were found severely wanting in this election campaign.

Frankly, a lot of the coverage was a fact-starved partisan disgrace as they fought to see who could sink deeper into the tank for Hillary Clinton.

The mainstream US media, having gleefully fuelled Trump’s candidacy for months to suit their own self-serving commercial interests, then turned on him like spitting cobras when he looked like he might actually win.

It’s also a fact that no president in modern times has been so anti-press, or so intent on attacking press freedom, as Barack Obama, one of Streep’s heroes.

Under his administration, the US government has set a new record for withholding Freedom of Information Act requests. Obama’s also used the Espionage Act to prosecute whistleblowers who leak to journalists more times than all previous administrations COMBINED.

So yes, the stench of hypocrisy throughout Streep’s speech was putridly pungent.

My overriding disappointment though is that she missed a massive opportunity to do something really constructive.

How much more effective would it have been had the most powerful woman in Hollywood called for unity not division, demanded a stop to all the teeth-gnashing and wailing over the election result, and urged Donald Trump in his inauguration speech to preach tolerance, fairness and equality?

That would have been a truly courageous and admirable thing to do.

nstead, Meryl Streep poured another 100 gallons of oil onto an already inflamed toxic fire.

She will get exactly what she wanted: today, she’s the toast of Hollywood, the darling of social media and a heroine to every Millennial in the world.

I’ve seen people on my Twitter feed say they actually wept with joy at her words.

But the reality is that she’s also enraged tens of millions of Americans who voted for and like Donald Trump, not to mention those who love their football and MMA.

And she’s simply re-confirmed to them what Mark Wahlberg said a few weeks ago when he urged actors not to talk about politics:

‘A lot of Hollywood is living in a bubble. They’re pretty out of touch with the common person, with the everyday guy out there providing for their family.’

Quite.

Meryl, I still love you dearly, but you had a chance to bring your country together last night and you blew it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-ovation.html


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Kizzy 11-01-2017 01:03 PM

#dailymail #nuffsaid

Niamh. 11-01-2017 01:04 PM

Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia

y.winter 11-01-2017 01:04 PM

It's getting boring.

Crimson Dynamo 11-01-2017 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9142323)
#dailymail #nuffsaid

Its Piers Morgan

Scarlett. 11-01-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9142328)
Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia

Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.

Scarlett. 11-01-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9142337)
Its Piers Morgan

:shrug:

Niamh. 11-01-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9142345)
Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.

Oh I never heard anything about him, I'll look it up

arista 11-01-2017 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9142328)
Outside of this incident that's mentioned about Roman Polanski winning that award, I just cannot believe that Hollywood allow him feature in any of their awards ceremonies or that actors agree to work with him still, it's disgusting, I mean the guy ran from the US to avoid prison for paedophilia


Very true

arista 11-01-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy (Post 9142345)
Same for the director of Jeepers Creepers. To be honest though, there's a lot of rumors of that sort of thing being common in Hollywood (and it being common since the old days of Hollywood too) its creepy.


Great Film

Chewy

Scarlett. 11-01-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 9142367)

Great Film

Chewy

I liked the film, but I refuse to watch it again after learning about what the director did.


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