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Which suggests that any of us who stands up to a Muslim womans rights is doing it because they are being PC. I said (though not my exact words) you can say that about people like its a 'real' thing simply because you believe its a 'real' thing, but its not a real thing, its Brillo propaganda. What I get from your thinking is, you believe everyone is disgusted with the subjugation of Muslim women who are (in your mind) forced into wearing the veil and those who speak out against people like you feel the same as you do but fight against you because of PC. In other words you are calling me...indirectly, a fake and I take issue with that. Let me be clear about this none existent disguised threat. If I was on a none PC forum and you said that, I would of come back at you with some very insulting words but I'm not so I can't. |
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Please stop getting personal with eachother and stick to the topic
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Thank you both, now we better get back to the point or Niamh will take us out..literally :omgno:
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On the actual subject, men did dress in the burkha to murder poor innocents, so we know it can happen.:shrug:
Perhaps if the face can be shown in public places it would suffice. |
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Also this idea that criticising Islam is ‘Islamaphobic’ is just a lefty shutdown tactic.
Islamaphobia is a ridiculous word anyway. People can criticise any religion they like for now. And it’s little wonder why there’s so much female oppression in Islam when many muslims hang on every word of a prophet who used to beat his 9 year old wife. Islam needs criticism.So do other religions but other religions are’nt as much of a problem now or taken so literally by the majority of followers. |
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The day that becomes a law then we know we’re in John McDonell’s cosy little authoritarian nightmare |
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Criticising a religion or even the actions of followers of that religion imo doesn’t constitute(and should’nt). Most rational people don’t hate Muslims or Christians or Jews because they choose to follow a religion.They judge people as they find them on an individual basis. They do criticise aspects of their religion.Especially the current most oppressive and dangerous religion we are encountering. |
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An couple of examples. Before WW2 and as the Nazi party were forming, a general distaste for Jewish people started to spread throughout Germany. This of course was prompted through propaganda media channels and radio. Was there a stirring of anti-semitism and if not why not?
More recently we've been the spectators of war in the Middle East by both tribal natives and the West. We then started to see terrorist attacks on our own shores and suddenly we were all talking about Muslims. Every day for years we have had something in one paper or other condemning the Islamic faith and on every political forum we've had many debates about the sinfulness of Islam. Is that a stirring up of anti-semitism? and if not why not? |
What is this new and interesting use of the phrase anti-Semitism?
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1.Yes obviously because “a general distaste for Jewish people“ 2.No because “condemning the Islamic faith“ |
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If Islamophobia is not acceptable as an umbrella term and Muslims are by definition Semites where's the issue? |
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