Oh yeah, and ppl say Emily said it to look 'cool'

well all week i haven't heard her use any other more obvious "cool" slang words, like innit, blud, wha gwan, bredrin... the list goes on..

so why ******?

Because they dont dedicate highlight shows to those words. Come on, it's not that hard to work out.

very good point there, ttw. Very good indeed.

Does that include the black youth who use it as a greeting to each other then? should they also become more educated about the absolute insult that the word is.

I personally would never call anyone anything that could be construed as offensive, but hey thats just me I was brought up with manners, respect and an awareness of other cultures, religions etc...

I dont agree with it being used by anyone, but I kind of understand why some people would be angry that its ok for a black person to use that word and not for a white person! I can see why some will see it as double standards so to speak. I dont feel that way, I feel that it was an inappropriate comment made by a silly girl.

I also dont buy into that she was nudged into it, no way was she going to allow herself to be set up as a figure of hatred

to be honest i do not understand why people are complaining about BB's decision to remove emily, she is clearly racist, and its amazing how easy that word slipped of her lips
she says she uses that word alot where she comes from, but that is no excuse for using it to describe someone you barely know. I think BB made the right decision, if she had of stayed in who knows how many complaits there would have been
The people who are complaining are probably fans of Emily and probably belive that she was joking, the fact is that there are many other words you could use, but n***** is racist and should not be used as part of a joke, wheter you know the person or not

If charley is dumb enough to say "Im a N##er" whilest laughing in the house she shouldnt be surprised when someone refers to her in that way in future. how many black people are going to say "im a ni##a" in a house full of white people if their intention isnt just to start trouble?

I do agree with that, perhaps emily heard charley describing herself as a N***** and thought it ok to use that word, but Charley is allways looking for trouble
However that is no excuse for Emily to have used the word she did, no matter what context it was in

Im sorry but you've gotta be pretty ignorant to think it acceptable to call a black person a ******, whether they refer to themselves in that way or not. Everyone should know where it comes from and that it is a racist word, and the majority of ppl know that some black ppl use it among themselves.

And the only time I was aware of Charley calling herself that is after Emily said it. Does anyone actually know what was exactly said when Charley said it.

An interesting post, godfather545

But still a few problems & I have to criticise.


I understand that you are entitled to your opinion, but many, many disagree with that


Whether you are white or non-white, it shouldn't matter either way, "whether it is viewed as a problem or not". That depends on the individual. Many white people find it offensive, because they are against a person saying a racist word or comment at that time or any other time. Many non-white people find a word or comment which is racist, to be "Non-offensive", it depends on the individual every time. If you are saying that you are a non-white person who finds Emily to be a problem, then you are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion as an individual


Emily said the (N) word & she did it in the way that she said that she did it. Nothing more, Nothing less. If you personally find it "Scary", it is okay for you to say that. But I wouldn't say it was much more than Emily described herself.


That is fortunate in your own situation. Many people who are non-white are in a different position & do get called the (N) word & perhaps more or less.


Emily is NOT racist, sorry....


Listen to what Emily has said & the way she said it & her reasons for saying it. After that, look at everything which has happened beyond Emily saying it & over the next few days, it will be much more clear. Emily is NOT a racist housemate.


I haven't heard anyone call myself that & I am white. I haven't heard anyone else who is white, ever been called that either. I have never heard anyone call a "Car", (A Pram) either. Because a Car has nothing to do with a Pram. The same applies to your observation.


Emily has explained what she did & how she did it. Nothing bad was ever meant. The rest is quite easy to work out


Emily is not being taught by someone who knows what you are saying. She is on the BB8 show and has been ejected by using the (N0) word. Also, if the (N) word HAD been mentioned with the words, "What's up my (N)", BB would have ejected her and the media would have STILL reacted in the same way, regardless of your analysis


That is the truth & I have to agree with that.


It comes from the word, "Negro" & your above description is correct. Most will know this.


Dead correct:thumbs: I wouldn't be offended if someone called me the (N) word, as I am white & what you say is true


Which non-white person/people are you talking about? It is difficult to work out what you are actually saying there.


It is understandable, if you, yourself, have experienced this attack & you, yourself, find it terribly offensive. Many other non-white people will feel differently


If that is how you personally feel, then we can all understand that view


We all saw the shown footage


Of course you wouldn't be arrested. We all know that, or, we should all know that


Endemol have to follow protocol & they are being (More than watched) you know:wink:


We don't know what is going through Charley's mind at this stage. I would delay judgement on that view until later on


Unless someone is psychic, they can't really say that comment. It needs much more clarity first


Rap music contains the (N) word. The majority of BB viewers are not complaining. Check the viewing figures against the amount who have actually complained & you will find the answer you are looking for


Racism exists, you know. It is very real & actually happens & won't ever end. While someone is watching the BB show, racism will be occuring all over the place. So it is a sad day, every day & for anyone to ever imagine that it will end, they are having a dream instead of being a realist.

Endemol have policed the show properly this time & that is the issue, nothing else is the issue.






nodisharmony :angel:

black people should make their minds up whether that word is acceptable or not because they are doing a hell of a job in trying to keep it alive,only black culture promotes its use.
No white people are profiting by using the word by getting sports cars, "bitches" and a ton of gold in their mouth.

i am getting offended by your words you talk like you don't even like black people. how sad. there no race on this earth i put above or below mine.

I love black people who are conscious and righteous, Public Enemy, Talib Kweli, i could go on, but they dont grab the spotlight or sell records like the greedy materialistic 50pences of this world.
I admire black peoples roots and culture, hip hop that is more spiritual is ignored and the gangsta has won the battle, Thats why i Love Dub reggae, because it brings people together not pushes them apart.

I hate 50 cent

The word is not used by just those who drive sports cars, have "bitches" and gold in their mouth.

And I doubt all racists continue to use the word simply bcos of hip hop.

I love conscious hip hop too, but i think u'll find artists such as kweli, do too use the word *****. Yet they do not use it for profit, so you shouldn't generalise in such a way as if only the likes of 50 cent and such "promote" the word. I think u'll also find that public enemy do to wear gold in their mouth.

artists like public enemy use the term to state they arent thugs or slaves. "i aint yo ni##a" etc.
Theres a lot of content in hip hop that i just let slide, though i could be offended if i gave it more thought. Ice Cube's "white cave bitch" etc. just cos i dont like someones point of view though doesnt mean i hate them. its often a case that the most dumb ass lyrics come with the dopest beats.

To the OP

England makes you sick?

Oooh, lets see, how should I put this....

LEAVE!

England makes me sick too, so that's what I'm doing asap (and I'm indigenous).

Gosh, I wish this topic would go away :tongue:

I think we can all agree on one thing: Stupid Emily!

And it's the United Kingdom, not England. Don't want to upset the Welsh/Scots/N. Irish... :whistle:

Bugsy, the OP specified England, not the United Kingdom or Great Britain. They're different things altogether.

It's just England s/he has a problem with.

And are scotland and wales any different?

That's not the point of this thread Smeggy. The OP specified England. I assume that's what the s/he meant.

haha what the hell you talking about???????

as a black man you should understand that it is you that makes this word so popular by calling each other it.
if you want to call each other it in a joky way, why cant we do the same?

get out of here with that rubbish.

its ok for jermaine jackson to call us white trash tho???

And N.Ireland.:wink:

hahaha, what the hell are YOU talking about??????

Firstly, no one was debating whether it was right or wrong for JJ to say white trash.

Secondly, black ppl do not say it in a JOKEY way - it is a term of endearment for someone alike them - BLACK.
So why can't you do the same? because you're not alike them, you're not black, so the way in which you would say it would change the meaning round completely.

get out of here with that rubbish"

Can I just bring my point forward again, as I think it was overlooked.

Good point. I understand what you mean.

However, I do believe on some occassions you can be racist to your own race, for example, some racists would not like my mum for marrying a black man and having children with him - although I am not sure if the correct term for it would be racism.