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Vicky. 09-06-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10584457)
you do realise that your words are 100% discriminatory

Well I obviously agree 100% but its clearly a reply to the likes of...

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10584459)
No more discriminatory than saying young people are lazy, lowlife scrowngers that sit and play Xbox all day

This kind of thing. Which seems fine and dandy.

6 of one 2 3s of the other IMO.

Liam- 09-06-2019 11:45 AM

Obviously not all old people are that way, but I’ve crossed paths with way more rude old people than younger people, but that reply to my post kinda proves the point that you’re only allowed to discriminate against the young and it be acceptable

user104658 09-06-2019 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10584464)
And you consider a “man” to be what exactly? Someone who’s prepared to put themselves in front of a fired gun?

Stoic, emotionally shut off, traumatised, unquestioning adherence to authority... one supposes.

Rob! 09-06-2019 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10584481)
Stoic, emotionally shut off, traumatised, unquestioning adherence to authority... one supposes.

And someone who is sent out onto a battle field to sacrifice themselves because the leaders of two different countries want to show the other they have a bigger dick. It’s pointless and senseless.

At least the past two generations have grown up in a time where peace in their country is the norm. Why would anybody want to put themselves in a situation that threatens that?

Rob! 09-06-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10584389)
Of course lowlifes aren't going to be happy about having to actually do something with their idle lives apart from sitting on their X Box and computer all day !!

No, you don’t hate or generalise the young at all, do you?

Kazanne 09-06-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10584486)
And someone who is sent out onto a battle field to sacrifice themselves because the leaders of two different countries want to show the other they have a bigger dick. It’s pointless and senseless.

At least the past two generations have grown up in a time where peace in their country is the norm. Why would anybody want to put themselves in a situation that threatens that?

So would your answer be to get rid of all our military ?

Twosugars 09-06-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10584449)
In my experience old people are the worst; rude, entitled, ignorant, what about those sorts of people, who just sit and knit all day? Should something be done about them? :think:

Very true. Just sit on their arses and pronounce on everything

Oliver_W 09-06-2019 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10584440)
At college we are currently being encouraged to do ‘industry placements’.

We would basically go to a company for a week, complete work they need doing, and all for free. Now this in itself is a bad idea, as all we gain from it is a little experience. But in the field I’m in, filmmaking, it’s a tough job making an entire film or advert solo, and for free. There’s the casting, planning, filming, editing, sound production, rendering etc - and to do that alone for no money is just something I’d rather not do. Especially when we are so used to working in groups where everyone can focus on their strong suit.

When we are giving them a skill, talent, whatever you call it, it’s the kind of thing I expect to be paid for. Yes I’m just starting out, so I’m not asking for much as it’s not the same quality as an industry professional, but it’s passable work and not something that in the industry would be given as a freebie.

You could go and be a runner for a week? Sure, it's the butt-end of the career ladder in film and tv, but it's where most have to start, and you'd get to see a lot of the different aspects of putting the thing together.

Oliver_W 09-06-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10584449)
In my experience old people are the worst; rude, entitled, ignorant, what about those sorts of people, who just sit and knit all day? Should something be done about them? :think:

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10584531)
Very true. Just sit on their arses and pronounce on everything

Maybe they should be retroactively made to work for several decades, pay taxes, and in some cases fight for the country ... or something?

Twosugars 09-06-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10584550)
Maybe they should be retroactively made to work for several decades, pay taxes, and in some cases fight for the country ... or something?

They should be less judgmental that's all

Liam- 09-06-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10584550)
Maybe they should be retroactively made to work for several decades, pay taxes, and in some cases fight for the country ... or something?

I’m not the one suggesting we force anyone born after 2000 into war zones, no-one should be forced into anything because of their age, that’s sort of the point I’m trying to make

Kazanne 09-06-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10584560)
I’m not the one suggesting we force anyone born after 2000 into war zones, no-one should be forced into anything because of their age, that’s sort of the point I’m trying to make

Its not about forcing them though,its those who commit crimes, and wonder round aimlessly commiting all sorts, we force them into prison so why not a boot camp style facility,

Kazanne 09-06-2019 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10584554)
They should be less judgmental that's all

People need to take a good long look at themselves before they diss other people old or young.

Liam- 09-06-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10584565)
Its not about forcing them though,its those who commit crimes, and wonder round aimlessly commiting all sorts, we force them into prison so why not a boot camp style facility,

Once again, boot camp for criminals isn’t the subject that’s been put on the table,

Vicky. 09-06-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10584565)
Its not about forcing them though,its those who commit crimes, and wonder round aimlessly commiting all sorts, we force them into prison so why not a boot camp style facility,

Yeah you seem to be focussed on criminals which is a different convo really and something I could probably get on board with.

However the general thread, along with the answers to stuff, is about just..'the young'. No criminals, just younger people in general who are apparently all idle and do nowt but play on xboxes (an answer that kind of shocked me tbh)

One thing saying its for those who do wrong in society. Quite another for it to be about people who are just born after a certain date, and for seemingly no reason besides some being lazy!

Morgan. 09-06-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10584541)
You could go and be a runner for a week? Sure, it's the butt-end of the career ladder in film and tv, but it's where most have to start, and you'd get to see a lot of the different aspects of putting the thing together.

My point wasn’t that though. I’d happily be a runner. But those opportunities aren’t given us because we aren’t near any studios. The opportunities we get are make a film for someone for free.

Nicky91 09-06-2019 01:07 PM

no, the only thing what is a MUST should be breathing, eating, drinking, sleeping, going to toilet, and taking a shower


everything else is a choice

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10584457)
you do realise that your words are 100% discriminatory

Got away with it yet again

Tom4784 09-06-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10584421)
My Mam used to say "They go in a boy and come out a man " This can only do good IMO

The older generations used to lock mentally ill and mentally disabled people in asylums and throw away the key, they didn't know their elbow from their arse when it came to knowing the effects forcing people into service could do to them.

Before anyone demands that they bring back national service, they should campaign to make sure our veterans are properly taken care of first. Too many veterans slip through the cracks into homelessness and are wrecked by PTSD and they don't get the help they need and National Service will only add to that. It's just a pointless exercise in spite by the older generations and nothing more.

As I said before, they'd be better putting all that money towards teaching teenagers how to function in the adult world and handle things like taxes, credit scores and banking and learning their rights and what they are entitled to. That will do more good then a pointless scheme just to make the older generations think they've got one over on the young.

Morgan. 09-06-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10584588)
no, the only thing what is a MUST should be breathing, eating, drinking, sleeping, going to toilet, and taking a shower


everything else is a choice

:clap1:

Mitchell 09-06-2019 03:20 PM

Nobody ever answered what would happen with those suffering with bad mental health issues and those that are disabled?

chuff me dizzy 09-06-2019 03:22 PM

So its ok for someone else to face a bullet for you ? but you wont do it for anyone else ? ...Wow ......just wow !!!

Marsh. 09-06-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10584800)
So its ok for someone else to face a bullet for you ? but you wont do it for anyone else ? ...Wow ......just wow !!!

So it's ok for you to dictate that a bunch of kids should but you wouldn't have to face any similar situation?

Wow... just wow!!!

Greg! 09-06-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10584800)
So its ok for someone else to face a bullet for you ? but you wont do it for anyone else ? ...Wow ......just wow !!!

Why exactly does anyone need to be taking bullets for anyone at the present moment in time? Is there a war on that threatens this country?

AnnieK 09-06-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10584800)
So its ok for someone else to face a bullet for you ? but you wont do it for anyone else ? ...Wow ......just wow !!!

Did your boys join the military? My only child is a boy and the thought if him being forced to do National Service sickens me. Should he choose that career path, I will support him but no child should be forced into it. He will make his own career choice when it comes to it. I would not force anyone to take a bullet for me unless they choose to


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