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Cherie 06-03-2020 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10792724)
But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue :shrug:

caprimint 06-03-2020 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10792731)
That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue :shrug:

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

Cherie 06-03-2020 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10792742)
As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

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It's up to her what she does with her body but if she is pre diabetic or something she needs a long term fix, that's just my opinion

Kizzy 06-03-2020 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10792679)
Sounds like everything you decide to try is safe and advisable yet you dismiss any other suggestions as disinformation even when it comes from doctors or health specialists..


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Everyone is different I suppose but if the doctors are describing how you feel is hangry then sorry I wouldn't have thought they would advocate that as a beneficial state to be in.
I didn't feel hangry. .. I didn't eat but drank regularly to satisfy any cravings and give my digestive system something to process and stop my blood sugars spiking wildly.

Kizzy 06-03-2020 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10792722)
Oh don't be daft of course it is.

It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

Kizzy 06-03-2020 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10792726)
Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous. :shrug:

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Kizzy 07-03-2020 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10792731)
That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue :shrug:

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

Kizzy 07-03-2020 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10792742)
As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.
Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

Marsh. 07-03-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792797)
Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term. :hee:

Marsh. 07-03-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792796)
It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

It is though. Just because people do it a lot, doesn't mean everyone doesn't know (and don't have it thrown at them all the time on TV and by doctors/teachers etc) that it's bad for you.

It's like smoking/vaping, people know full well it's dangerous and potentially life threatening, but yeah, people do it.

Cherie 07-03-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792813)
Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more
.

I agree with the move more, but I think where people fail is avoiding some foods altogether, I think everyone should be able to have a treat as completely cutting out foods is difficult and never works for me anyway

Zizu 07-03-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792791)
Everyone is different I suppose but if the doctors are describing how you feel is hangry then sorry I wouldn't have thought they would advocate that as a beneficial state to be in.

I didn't feel hangry. .. I didn't eat but drank regularly to satisfy any cravings and give my digestive system something to process and stop my blood sugars spiking wildly.



Well I’ve never felt ‘hangry’ in nearly five years of intermittent fasting ..


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Zizu 07-03-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792820)
Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.

Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.



For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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Kizzy 07-03-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10793137)
Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term. :hee:

Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious :hee:

Marsh. 07-03-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10793285)
Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious :hee:

I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

Kizzy 07-03-2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10793138)
It is though. Just because people do it a lot, doesn't mean everyone doesn't know (and don't have it thrown at them all the time on TV and by doctors/teachers etc) that it's bad for you.

It's like smoking/vaping, people know full well it's dangerous and potentially life threatening, but yeah, people do it.

It might be thrown at them by doctors but in the general population it's the norm ...go to the pub drink to excess, have a kebab. Nobody bats an eyelid.
Say you're doing a juice cleanse and it's, omg! Your gonna die! :bored:

Kizzy 07-03-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10793174)
For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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Im not sure to be honest if you love them like I do you will always want them, but personally I'd say the cravings went after about 4 days. You might feel pretty rubbish at first, headachy and such if you had a lot of caffeine but it passes and then it's fine :)

Kizzy 07-03-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10793293)
I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

You did insinuate you were discussing juicing though maybe try make yourself clearer? A generic 'something' is not very helpful.

Kizzy 07-03-2020 10:45 PM

Update, I've done a month so added in a light evening meal, had scrambled egg yesterday and had a thin turkey steak and a punnet of mushrooms tonight mmmmm :)

Marsh. 08-03-2020 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10793338)
It might be thrown at them by doctors but in the general population it's the norm ...go to the pub drink to excess, have a kebab. Nobody bats an eyelid.
Say you're doing a juice cleanse and it's, omg! Your gonna die! :bored:

No they don't bat an eyelid, but ask them and they know it's bad for them. They do it anyway. That's the point I was making.

Marsh. 08-03-2020 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10793344)
You did insinuate you were discussing juicing though maybe try make yourself clearer? A generic 'something' is not very helpful.

I didn't insinuate anything. It wasn't a generic random comment, it was A REPLY to something Caprimint said.

:facepalm:

Zizu 08-03-2020 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10793343)
Im not sure to be honest if you love them like I do you will always want them, but personally I'd say the cravings went after about 4 days. You might feel pretty rubbish at first, headachy and such if you had a lot of caffeine but it passes and then it's fine :)



I experienced that when I went from 7 cuppas a day to zero ... :)


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Kizzy 08-03-2020 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10793351)
No they don't bat an eyelid, but ask them and they know it's bad for them. They do it anyway. That's the point I was making.

Do they?... That's subjective. A lot of the few pints and a takeout eaters I know think it's perfectly ok :/

Kizzy 08-03-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10793352)
I didn't insinuate anything. It wasn't a generic random comment, it was A REPLY to something Caprimint said.

:facepalm:

Yes... you didn't commit to whether you thought juicing was dangerous or not in that comment, although the tone of your posts suggests you feel it is. :facepalm:

Care to clarify?

user104658 09-03-2020 08:54 AM

In all seriousness - why would one need to juice cleanse in order to cut carbs and sugar? I generally don't eat empty "glutenny" carbs like bread, pasta, etc. and keep refined sugars low because I do get joint inflammation (shoulders and wrists, mostly) that seems to be drastically reduced when I keep refined carbs away. I've also reduced (though not stopped, too tasty) red meat consumption lately. But I'm not sure what the benefit of the juice cleanse is, over and above just cutting the junk.


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