Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10970890)

to many old fogies, Alf.

A great list anyway. Thanks for taking the time to compile it so we can comment on it.

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10970937)

Other than Gullit, the only player I would have who is not on your list is Andrea Pirlo. For me, as good a midfielder of this generation as Xavi or Iniesta. I think in a few years we'll appreciate how good a player he was.

Great list, Alf. Cheers for sharing it. :thumbs:

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10970961)

Mine would be in no order:

Milan 88-92
Man Utd 2008, better than 1999 IMO
Arsenal Invincibles - of course
Barca for the Pep years
Ajax 94 - team that produced Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, both De Boer twins. great team put together by Louis Van Galle
Czech republic team of 2004 - remember that team with Milan Baros, the 6 foot 8 tree Jan Koller, Pavel Nedved - Fond memories of that team, very exciting team that didnt win anything.

I might have a think about this.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970968)

The Spanish national team between 2008 - 2012

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970910)

Here you go Annie


1 Pele
2 Cristiano Ronaldo
3 Diego Maradona
4 Alfredo Di Stefano
5 Johan Cruyff
6 Lionel Messi
7 Franz Beckenbauer
8 Zico
9 Ronaldo
10 Ferenc Puskas
11 Zinedine Zidane
12 Michel Platini
13 Garrincha
14 Bobby Charlton
15 Roberto Baggio
16 Marco van Basten
17 Ronaldinho
18 Eusebio
19 George Best
20 Gerd Muller
21 Romario
22 Lothar Matthaus
23 Elias Figueroa
24 Kevin Keegan
25 Karl Heinz-Rummenigge
26 Paolo Maldini
27 Xavi Hernandez
28 Sandor Kocsis
29 Andres Iniesta
30 Kenny Dalglish
31 Frank Rijkaard
32 Raymond Kopa
33 Neymar
34 Franco Baresi
35 Luis Suarez (not the former Liverpool player)
36 Lev Yashin
37 Didi
38 Antoine Griezmann
39 Hristo Stoichkov
40 Rivellino

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10970913)

According to my kid....526 of Peles 1282 goals were from unofficial matches so shouldn't have counted in goal count.

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 10971001)

Totally true. It was something that was pushed for years but has now been roundly debunked. The 1000 goals were not in competitive matches, alot of friendlies and exhibition games.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10970970)

Thanks Alf....he will be made up to read it in the morning.....he may have some comments though :laugh: He's passionate about football

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10970935)

Maybe I'll do a more modern list next time, maybe a Premier league all time top 40?

I'll let Annie's kid decide if I should or not.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10971013)

I hope your lad isn't a big Messi fan, he'll go mad at me.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10971165)

Annie, if your lad is interested and has never seen these, Sky sports did loads of pretty good 30 minute documentaries on the greatest players. They're all on YouTube. Here are the ones from my top ten.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10971214)

I think your insistence on individual awards affected your judgement and ultimately the list. Michael Owen has a ballon d'or, so these things don't always indicate who the best players are. A good read though, Alfred.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10971214)

I think your insistence on individual awards affected your judgement and ultimately the list. Michael Owen has a ballon d'or, so these things don't always indicate who the best players are. A good read though, Alfred.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10971246)

So, I have 50 players picked out for my all time Premier league players.

I just need to try and arrange them in order, then I'll get posting.

Note, just because Ronaldo finished second in this list, doesn't automatically mean he'll win the Premier league list. I will be judging solely on their Premier league careers, not from what they've done elsewhere or at international level.