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arista 18-03-2022 12:22 PM

Alan Johnson (Former Home Secretary for Labour)
has pointed out if you sack more than 100 workers
you need to alert the Minister 45 days before.

He was speaking on Ch4HD PM Live

Vanessa 18-03-2022 12:23 PM

At my workplace most people have left the unions.
But I'm still on it. You never know, one day you might need it.

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147136)
At my workplace most people have left the unions.
But I'm still on it. You never know, one day you might need it.

Stay in the union, Vanessa. Workers rights are on the table, so you need all the protection you can get. You've made a good choice.

arista 18-03-2022 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11147153)
Stay in the union, Vanessa. Workers rights are on the table, so you need all the protection you can get. You've made a good choice.



Of course Slim
but Unions can not stop a company from
closing down forever

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147157)
Of course Slim
but Unions can not stop a company from
closing down forever

So unless unions can stop absolutely everything, then what are you saying?

Kizzy 18-03-2022 01:19 PM

Well what a surprise...

Sources at the DfT said it was made aware of the impending mass sackings and suspension of ferry services on Wednesday night.

Boris Johnson’s official spokesperson had said on Thursday: “We weren’t given any notice to this.”

He confirmed on Friday that senior officials at the DfT had first been informed about the firm’s plan on Wednesday evening but had kept the information within a small group, because of concerns about commercial sensitivity.

The spokesperson said ministers were investigating whether P&O Ferries broke the law, describing the firm’s behaviour as “extreme”.

“We expect companies to treat their employees fairly. It is only in extreme circumstances that employers need to make extreme decisions to secure the future of their businesses if all other avenues have failed, including negotiations between employer and employees.

“We don’t believe this was the case for P&O staff,” he said, adding: “We are looking into this very carefully



https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-says-union

Kizzy 18-03-2022 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147136)
At my workplace most people have left the unions.
But I'm still on it. You never know, one day you might need it.

Very wise Vanessa.

Vanessa 18-03-2022 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11147163)
Well what a surprise...

Sources at the DfT said it was made aware of the impending mass sackings and suspension of ferry services on Wednesday night.

Boris Johnson’s official spokesperson had said on Thursday: “We weren’t given any notice to this.”

He confirmed on Friday that senior officials at the DfT had first been informed about the firm’s plan on Wednesday evening but had kept the information within a small group, because of concerns about commercial sensitivity.

The spokesperson said ministers were investigating whether P&O Ferries broke the law, describing the firm’s behaviour as “extreme”.

“We expect companies to treat their employees fairly. It is only in extreme circumstances that employers need to make extreme decisions to secure the future of their businesses if all other avenues have failed, including negotiations between employer and employees.

“We don’t believe this was the case for P&O staff,” he said, adding: “We are looking into this very carefully



https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-says-union

It's a horrible way to treat your staff. And very bad for their image.
They could have done something similar to British Airways. But this just seems wrong.

Vanessa 18-03-2022 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11147153)
Stay in the union, Vanessa. Workers rights are on the table, so you need all the protection you can get. You've made a good choice.

My company is good to the employees, but you never know what can happen in the future.

arista 18-03-2022 02:17 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOH24pHX...g&name=900x900

bots 18-03-2022 02:25 PM

the freight business will likely be unaffected going forward, but their passenger numbers will go down a lot. Even if they halved the pay of the new workers, thats still by their calculation a 50 million annual loss. Lets see if its still in business 12 months down the road

arista 18-03-2022 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11147162)
So unless unions can stop absolutely everything, then what are you saying?



In this Case
they made sure the Union were not warned
as it would slow the change over, up.



As soon as they were told to get everyone off
and themselves
the Unions yesterday,
had a feeling something like
this was going to happen.


What will the Conservatives do
Fine them?


One Union Leader
has asked the Government to takeover control of all the boats
and on Monday,
Labour will also vote the same.


Of course, it is not likely
the Government would be that bold.

arista 18-03-2022 02:33 PM

Grant Shapps has said his phone
is full of calls from Blue Chip firms who want to take
these workers on.

Speaking in Blackpool
to GBnewsHD

bots 18-03-2022 02:35 PM

i support the unions taking a stand because workers rights have been hammered for decades. If that means taking p&o to court ... go for it

Vanessa 18-03-2022 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147192)
Grant Shapps has said his phone
is full of calls from Blue Chip firms who want to take
these workers on.

Speaking in Blackpool
to GBnewsHD

That's good. I hope they all find work

Vanessa 18-03-2022 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147193)
i support the unions taking a stand because workers rights have been hammered for decades. If that means taking p&o to court ... go for it

They need to be sued.. You don't treat your workers that way

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147191)
In this Case
they made sure the Union were not warned
as it would slow the change over, up.



As soon as they were told to get everyone off
and themselves
the Unions yesterday,
had a feeling something like
this was going to happen.


What will the Conservatives do
Fine them?


One Union Leader
has asked the Government to takeover control of all the boats
and on Monday,
Labour will also vote the same.


Of course, it is not likely
the Government would be that bold.

I'm old enough to remember an election when a pro-workers rights, pro-nationalisation candidate was smeared as a dangerous communist. Now it requires boldness? :laugh:


Right side of history. Again.

arista 18-03-2022 05:22 PM

[P&O Ferries: New Eastern European crew paid '£2-an-hour'
on board 'don't have clearance to sail' after agency
employing them was set up just one MONTH ago by Swiss boss]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...7620214571.jpg
[The new agency staff who will be manning
P&O Ferries' ships are an 'Eastern European' crew
who have been offered '£2.60-an-hour' wages
in a move union bosses have slammed
as being a 21st century recreation of 'slave ships'.
Pictured: Workers are seen aboard the Spirit of Britain in Dover, Kent]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...st-2-hour.html

user104658 18-03-2022 05:27 PM

So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?

Zizu 18-03-2022 05:30 PM

Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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bots 18-03-2022 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147256)
Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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i said exactly the same earlier and the public will use other alternatives now if they can, so their income will go down, and they have to pay to make all these redundancies. I give them a year before they stop trading

Vanessa 18-03-2022 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147260)
i said exactly the same earlier and the public will use other alternatives now if they can, so their income will go down, and they have to pay to make all these redundancies. I give them a year before they stop trading

They have behaved appallingly. I will never use thwei services.

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11147255)
So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?

Tories reading this thread, then getting to your "good news" post about slave ships.

https://c.tenor.com/rjuaqwfF2VUAAAAM...ad-anymore.gif

Shout out to legend killer for the gif

arista 18-03-2022 05:53 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...7610949382.jpg

glib 18-03-2022 06:14 PM

But if you don’t operate in a single country, are you legally entitled to one country’s legal min wage

Also don’t they receive accomodation and food for working on board these ferries? Don’t see what they’ll spend any money on


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