I think I’m just middle-of-the-road when it comes to this whole discussion. On the one hand there’s no way I think under-18s (personally I’d say under-21s) are developed enough to be deemed capable of going through with sexual reassignment (although I wouldn’t have referred to the wanting to in kids and adolescents in such a dismissive/‘it’s just a phase, kids’ way) but at the same time I just don’t get why people seem so adamant to either invariably pathologise transgendered folk experiences or deny that transphobic assaults do happen. I can see where most sides of these arguments come from (and they’re absolutely valid in so many other ways) but if homophobic and even racial assaults occur then so do transphobic ones and there’s evidence to prove that. The fact that a lot of homophobia and racism happens online/on Twitter doesn’t mean face-to-face physical abuse doesn’t happen and it’s a similar case with trans. folk.

When did I deny physical hate crimes happen?? Please tell me :facepalm: .

The fact that you don't see how damaging that perverted prosthetic breasted bloke is to the trans community ,is actually mind boggling. He found a loophole and took advantage which is extremely worrying,because he put the 'trans' label on himself. Which is what we've been saying is happening,which by the way is another reason 'anti trans ' movement has gone up . Because weirdos like that are trying to ruin the trans & LGBT community all round.

I don't care what BS excuse he was using for his hideous behaviour ,he knew full well that gormless Canada would go along with his antics . He made the children feel uncomfortable and it was very innapropriate . Plus he was mocking women.

Exactly, spot on Goldheart. And there are plenty of trans people who see this too, just have a look on youtube

Some will be, some wont..no matter what this pathetic video clip says.

What proof is there that they were attacked for being trans?

Are 3 year old statistics relevent to now?

Hate crime has always existed and hasn’t just stopped occurring 3 years later. What is your point?

My points are, it may be dropping, and you have used 3 year old statistics trying to be relevant whilst digging at someone for posting non relevant links.

I’m saying nothing other than the fact that hate-crime is obviously a real phenomenon and that it applies to all sorts of marginalised groups, in 2019 (and well-before) and now. I don’t know what’s to gain by denying it or pretending it doesn’t exist.

Infact, I could probably easily say it's dropped by 30 percent,at least,since those statistics.

Oh I know that side of the Trans community exists, and really aren't helping the community be accepted.

Especially the Teacher with the huge Breasts and sexualized outfits.

Any evidence of that?

Oh the person weren't Trans?

And on the violence against Trans people rising, that is obviously disgusting and hopefully something that the Government or the Police will try to fix.

Just my ability to put 2 and 2 together regarding covid and people being out and about.

But would that actually be indicative of a change in attitude?

Probably not, but with nobody posting the last 2 years statistics we will all just have to guess on that one until they do.So I cant say for sure.What I can say for sure though, is that the percentages will have plummetted since 2019.

I'm not really interested in america, nor its black on black crime.

That says it all.

This, btws, is the full article: https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conten...ng-people-.pdf

it's not just going through a phase though


example a: Bruce Jenner: successful olympic athlete, whom it never felt right to living as a man, who is much happier now living as Caitlyn



or remember the one german singer who is internationally well known (for her music) Kim Petras (yup she too is trans, has been since she was 4 or 5 can't remember correctly but from a very very young age anyway)



even one ends up winning the eurovision song contest, in the 90's for Israel, Dana International (and quite a gorgeous hot woman she is too, i myself as a straight guy, i have a crush at her)

can't say i've ever fancied any women with a full blown beard :shrug:

Maybe read the article through Nicky. Obviously, some people are genuinely dysphoric.

Nicky: yeah, no.