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user104658 20-12-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11242546)
One man's opinion. He's entitled to it. Who cares?

In a couple of years no one will remember Markle.

It's his "opinion" to state that he wants to see her stripped naked and paraded through town having **** thrown at her?

That's not really an opinion, is it? I know he was exaggerating and that he thought he was being funny (he wasn't "joking", but he did think he was being funny) but I don't think the suggestion of gangs of ruddy faced blokes stripping and humiliating women "for their wrongs" in expressions of their sad, impotent rage should really fall in the realms of "just an opinion".

Drunkenly burped out in a pub it should get an eye-roll and ignored. Published in a national newspaper that's read by the exact sort of people who ould - unironically, and genuinely - like to see the people mentioned tarred and feathered ... it's just horrific.

As a "joke" it works better as a satire of the people who do genuinely get themselves emotional and upset thinking about a random celebrity and a family of dough-faced aristocrats.

jet 20-12-2022 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11242549)
Well the daily fail is of course your preferred choice as it’s all you ever post. I’d say enjoy your hatred filled tabloid but I already know you do. You can’t form an opinion without it. So sad

Heartbreaking. :bawling:

Glenn. 20-12-2022 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11242556)
Heartbreaking. :bawling:

Stay a bitter old man towards a woman you don’t know

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 02:05 PM

Im afraid the issue is firmly with the Editor who would have seen this piece and passed it instead of politely saying that "sorry Jez but that is too much in light of recent very public attacks on young women - I get your column is all tongue in cheek and that its refers to a GOT famous moment and that Markle is a narcissistic passive-aggressive annoyance but that is too far and will create a sh1tstorm"

That is her job and she did not do it.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 02:33 PM


Glenn. 20-12-2022 03:41 PM

Imagine if his personality was more than hounding Meghan Markle

user104658 20-12-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin the Carrot (Post 11242568)

I must have missed the part where Harry and Meghan suggested that Charles and William should be stripped naked and shackled to the gates of Buckingham Palace to have feces thrown at them by baying crowds of slack-jawed locals?

Nicky91 20-12-2022 03:47 PM

oh shut up Piers, don't interfere with someone else's opinions

Liam- 20-12-2022 03:47 PM

Piers’ picture should be placed next to ‘bunny boiler’ in the dictionary, he’s actually obsessed, she needs a restraining order against him asap, he’s clearly deranged

Mystic Mock 20-12-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin the Carrot (Post 11242568)

Piers Morgan is comparing apples & oranges.

Where's the violent threat towards for example William? And if there is one towards him I would personally stick up for him as well.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 04:24 PM

Jeremy Clarkson’s biggest mistake was to capitulate
 
He could have defended his right to cause offence, but instead has given all the wrong people a chance to crawl onto the moral high ground

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1280

Jeremy Clarkson has never been the most subtle of writers, but his latest column has managed to exceed even his own outrage-expectations. In my view, if you want to call out the former royal couple for their excruciating and hypocritical behaviour, it pays to be everything they are not: reasonable, reserved and respectful. Fantasising about Meghan being paraded through the streets having lumps of excrement thrown at her is the very sort of thing which fuels the couple’s grievance machine, which allows them to say: see what we mean about racist Britain hating Meghan?

In truth, Netflix producers failed so miserably to demonstrate that Harry and Meghan were victims of an orchestrated hate campaign by the British tabloids that they were reduced to flashing up headlines from American publications. But Clarkson’s column will certainly be taking pride of place in the couple’s next film.

Today, however, that is not the main issue – for the debate has extended into one of free speech and Clarkson's right to cause offence. The answer is easy: of course he has that right. And having written what he did, Clarkson made an error by appearing to apologise. That is exactly what Harry and Meghan and their supporters want: for the British press, and potentially its regulators, to be so fearful of causing offence that they grovel before them.

Clarkson should have followed one of two examples. The first, like the best comedians, is to unashamedly defend his right to write what he did. The second would be to maintain a dignified silence: say nothing, or, at the very most insist that “interpretations of my column may vary”.

It isn’t just Harry and Meghan whose interests Jeremy Clarkson has helped serve by means of his apology: it is the entire liberal-Left establishment and its demented campaign against what it calls the “Right-wing press”. Is there anything more ridiculous than watching Sir Philip Pullman, for instance, mounting his high horse over Clarkson’s column? This is a man who tweeted, following the Brexit vote, “When I hear the name Boris Johnson for some reason the words ‘rope’ and ‘nearest lamp post’ come to mind as well.”

Were the liberal-Left to apply consistent standards, it would have demanded that Sir Philip’s books be removed from bookshop and library shelves, and films based on his books to be banned from television. But of course, different rules apply to “enlightened” liberal commentators, who are allowed to employ violent imagery in their arguments and brush aside complaints that they didn’t mean it literally (neither, funny enough, did Clarkson when he called for Meghan to be paraded naked through the streets).

There is nothing to be gained from paddling around in this swamp. Harry and Meghan’s campaign against Britain and its royal family can be better taken apart through forensic analysis of their claims and the hypocrisy they reveal minute by minute in their Netflix series (let’s not fall into the trap of calling it a documentary). Yes, this couple really did boast of the air miles they had run up during their relationship – while lecturing the rest of us on climate change.

Give Harry and Meghan the slightest chance to crawl onto the moral high ground and all this gets suppressed. Clarkson has handed them a PR victory by refusing to stand

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ke-capitulate/

Nicky91 20-12-2022 04:25 PM

don't quote that user's posts who i have on ignore :mad:

Glenn. 20-12-2022 04:42 PM

Imagine still defending what he said.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11242577)
Imagine if his personality was more than hounding Meghan Markle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11242594)
Imagine still defending what he said.

Imagine propping up the couple’s grievance machine

Glenn. 20-12-2022 04:54 PM

Sure

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 04:55 PM

17,500 complaints
 
Jeremy Clarkson's Meghan Markle humour column is now the most complained
about newspaper article in HISTORY

https://image.gbnews.uk/410245.webp?...067&height=610



The number surpassed the total number of complaints the media regulator received in 2021 – 14,355.

The previous most complained-about article was published in the Scottish Sun in August 2020, about the Stonehaven train derailment, which received more than 16,860 complaints.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/jeremy-cl...history/410225

user104658 20-12-2022 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11242594)
Imagine still defending what he said.

"If WOKEMY Clarkson won't stand by what he says then I'll jolly well do it for him by gum!" :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2022 05:27 PM

Well well what have we here


joeysteele 20-12-2022 05:30 PM

A bit rich from Farage after all his deceit and lies in the EU referendum.

user104658 20-12-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin the Carrot (Post 11242603)
Well well what have we here


Jeremy Clarkson't!

bots 20-12-2022 05:43 PM

They both come from the same clown car

https://media2.giphy.com/media/mIMsLsQTJzAn6/giphy.gif

jet 20-12-2022 06:00 PM

I can actually think of worse things than some loud mouth celeb saying something offensive.

Like causing distress to a grandmother just at the very time her husband is dying.

Like causing distress to a grandmother when SHE is dying.

Like refusing an invitation to see grandmother who you know is dying a week before she dies.

Like making a docu trashing their family which dying grandmother could still have been alive to see.

Like making demeaning remarks about dying grandmother in said docu.

Like being so unforgiving that you won’t contact a father who had 2 heart attacks and even a recent stroke doesn’t soften your hard heart.

Like selling out your family/your husband’s family for a big pay cheque.

Yet not one word of condemnation from Meghan and Harry supporters when these things were reported. The hypocrisy is stunning.

Glenn. 20-12-2022 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11242609)
I can actually think of worse things than some loud mouth celeb saying something offensive.

Like causing distress to a grandmother just at the very time her husband is dying.

Like causing distress to a grandmother when SHE is dying.

Like refusing an invitation to see grandmother who you know is dying a week before she dies.

Like making a docu trashing their family which dying grandmother could still have been alive to see.

Like making demeaning remarks about dying grandmother in said docu.

Like being so unforgiving that you won’t contact a father who had 2 heart attacks and even a recent stroke doesn’t soften your hard heart.

Like selling out your family/your husband’s family for a big pay cheque.

Yet not one word of condemnation from Meghan and Harry supporters when these things were reported. The hypocrisy is stunning.

All tabloid fodder jet :joker:

jet 20-12-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11242610)
All tabloid fodder jet :joker:

I rest my case.

AnnieK 20-12-2022 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11242609)
I can actually think of worse things than some loud mouth celeb saying something offensive.

Like causing distress to a grandmother just at the very time her husband is dying.

Like causing distress to a grandmother when SHE is dying.

Like refusing an invitation to see grandmother who you know is dying a week before she dies.

Like making a docu trashing their family which dying grandmother could still have been alive to see.

Like making demeaning remarks about dying grandmother in said docu.

Like being so unforgiving that you won’t contact a father who had 2 heart attacks and even a recent stroke doesn’t soften your hard heart.

Like selling out your family/your husband’s family for a big pay cheque.

Yet not one word of condemnation from Meghan and Harry supporters when these things were reported. The hypocrisy is stunning.

And when all those things happened, there were threads on here and on social media, newspaper comments sections, articles etc etc slating them for their actions.

Just because they have done questionable things does not mean that people can not be quite rightyly disgusted when this article was published but Meghans main detractors are.all saying "yeah but they have done this..." There shoukd be no "yeah buts" when it is a perceived threat of violence toward another human.


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