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arista 03-03-2023 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11267169)


Yes LT


That so wrong
it is not for all ages.

arista 03-03-2023 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11267080)


A clip of this wrong event
was on the One Hour
GBnewsHD Newspaper review


The Presenter
said "better make sure 5PM repeat of this,
does not have that video clip."

Cherie 03-03-2023 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11267318)
I really, really doubt that’s what LT was really saying at all. And I’m sure Glenn knows that.

Indeed

Incidentally drag queens are not always part of the community ...they can also be straight men, at least that is how it used to be,

Redway 03-03-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11267125)
Either you want to give parents, especially mothers, the right to be in control of what their children are exposed to, based on what they think is acceptable and appropriate for their own family and children, or you don’t, you can’t have it both ways, no matter how much you want to



Sex education is fine for the appropriate ages it’s at now, I do however believe that social studies at an appropriate level for different ages , would be incredibly beneficial for society as a whole in the long run, thanks for confirming that young children are not being taught about sex like the right wing media are trying to make people believe though

So what are hairy ogres in thongs doing at a pre-nursery and why are you defending these silly people?

user104658 03-03-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11267212)
I don’t for a second believe that it’s entirely about what drag queens wear, a queen could come out in a kaftan and balaclava and people would still find issues with it, it’s fully about not wanting drag queens to be accepted and integrated into general society and attempting to smear an entire demographic as something unsavoury and worthy of being hidden away

I find this one genuinely confusing I have to say. Loosely, I don't think there's anything wrong with drag. Some of it veers quite clearly into an uncomfortable level of misogyny BUT at it's core... it's an act, it's entertainment, and not everyone has to like or agree with a form of entertainment for it to be acceptable. In that sense, there's no issue with drag.

What's confusing me here is... drag, surely, IS just an activity? It's always been the case that drag is traditionally men (usually gay men) caricaturing/playing women in a very exaggerated and hyperbolic way. Sometimes sexualised, sometimes not, but that's not massively relevant in adult entertainment so whatever. My point is that it's an act, like being a singer or a comedian. It has little (if anything) to do with trans and TRADITIONALLY was not about gender identity - most drag queens have been quite clear on being gay males. Drag is something one does, not something one is.

So where does "accepted and integrated into general society" come into it? Being a drag queen isn't an "identity"? Have you ever heard someone talk about being "accepted and integrated" as a comedian, actor or singer?

If it's gone that way it's very recent and clearly all wrapped up in the also-very-recent obsession with "group identity" that's plaguing every corner of sociology.

Niamh. 03-03-2023 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11267386)
I find this one genuinely confusing I have to say. Loosely, I don't think there's anything wrong with drag. Some of it veers quite clearly into an uncomfortable level of misogyny BUT at it's core... it's an act, it's entertainment, and not everyone has to like or agree with a form of entertainment for it to be acceptable. In that sense, there's no issue with drag.

What's confusing me here is... drag, surely, IS just an activity? It's always been the case that drag is traditionally men (usually gay men) caricaturing/playing women in a very exaggerated and hyperbolic way. Sometimes sexualised, sometimes not, but that's not massively relevant in adult entertainment so whatever. My point is that it's an act, like being a singer or a comedian. It has little (if anything) to do with trans and TRADITIONALLY was not about gender identity - most drag queens have been quite clear on being gay males. Drag is something one does, not something one is.

So where does "accepted and integrated into general society" come into it? Being a drag queen isn't an "identity"? Have you ever heard someone talk about being "accepted and integrated" as a comedian, actor or singer?

If it's gone that way it's very recent and clearly all wrapped up in the also-very-recent obsession with "group identity" that's plaguing every corner of sociology.

Even Rupaul came out and said something to that effect originally but he had to back track when the mob came for him

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/3/6...ew-controversy

user104658 03-03-2023 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11267389)
Even Rupaul came out and said something to that effect originally but he had to back track when the mob came for him

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/3/6...ew-controversy

I feel bad for RuPaul ... he was quite clear on what HIS drag race was about, almost got "cancelled" for it, backtracked, had a trans woman (previous drag queen) on the show doing drag, who quite predictably ended up being like "Uhh actually this isn't for me any more, it feels like caricaturing and is making me very uncomfortable" showing that RuPaul was right all along :shrug:. It was a disaster and the show hasn't been the same since all of this.

I actually find that traditional drag if you take it right back to the core, which is clearly RuPaul's thoughts on it, is that it's really about satiring and pointing out the absurdity of gender and gender norms as a concept. It's one of the major sticking points of gender ideology, because it's completely AT ODDS with identifying as trans. It's really not possible to justify life-and-health-altering sex reassignment surgeries whilst also accepting the meaninglessness of gender norms... the philosophies are not compatible. It should be an ideological battleground but the blinkers are firmly in place for the sake of allyship.

smudgie 03-03-2023 10:57 AM

Poor sad women, dragging their babies with them to get their jollies.
Find a ruddy babysitter and stop hiding behind your babies.:fist:

Zizu 03-03-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11267395)
Poor sad women, dragging their babies with them to get their jollies.
Find a ruddy babysitter and stop hiding behind your babies.:fist:


You may well have a point given that babies apparently understand and take in far more than we ever imagined at a very early age


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Livia 03-03-2023 11:51 AM

Taking the kids into town later... There's a stripper on at the Boilermaker's Arms. Wouldn't want them to miss it.

Cherie 03-03-2023 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11267401)
Taking the kids into town later... There's a stripper on at the Boilermaker's Arms. Wouldn't want them to miss it.

Don’t forget to let them watch the Texas Chainsaw massacre at the weekend

Cherie 03-03-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11267386)
I find this one genuinely confusing I have to say. Loosely, I don't think there's anything wrong with drag. Some of it veers quite clearly into an uncomfortable level of misogyny BUT at it's core... it's an act, it's entertainment, and not everyone has to like or agree with a form of entertainment for it to be acceptable. In that sense, there's no issue with drag.

What's confusing me here is... drag, surely, IS just an activity? It's always been the case that drag is traditionally men (usually gay men) caricaturing/playing women in a very exaggerated and hyperbolic way. Sometimes sexualised, sometimes not, but that's not massively relevant in adult entertainment so whatever. My point is that it's an act, like being a singer or a comedian. It has little (if anything) to do with trans and TRADITIONALLY was not about gender identity - most drag queens have been quite clear on being gay males. Drag is something one does, not something one is.

So where does "accepted and integrated into general society" come into it? Being a drag queen isn't an "identity"? Have you ever heard someone talk about being "accepted and integrated" as a comedian, actor or singer?

If it's gone that way it's very recent and clearly all wrapped up in the also-very-recent obsession with "group identity" that's plaguing every corner of sociology.


Yes

Mystic Mock 03-03-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11267405)
Don’t forget to let them watch the Texas Chainsaw massacre at the weekend

God that one scene in the 2003 version would scar a child for life.:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 03-03-2023 04:00 PM


Crimson Dynamo 03-03-2023 04:02 PM


user104658 03-03-2023 04:06 PM

I swear this thread alone is a sad microcosm of the mechanisms at play all across the western world at the moment. Really troubling - where is the balance? I mean it is here in places but what, maybe 20% of the thread... and I think that's a pretty accurate reflection. A tragic cycle of misrepresentation, press hyperbole, alienation, defensiveness and emboldening.

I don't think any of this is going to end well at all. For anyone but a very, very select few. I really do increasingly get the impression we're being played like fiddles, by people who look at us like we're ants.

Crimson Dynamo 03-03-2023 05:22 PM

BTW that pervert trans man teacher in Canada has FINALLY been suspended

as he was seen at weekends dressed in mens clothing

:rolleyes:


Once again, if you pander to a delusion then expect to get played

embarrassing

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09...3771877557.jpg

Oliver_W 03-03-2023 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11267476)
BTW that pervert trans man teacher in Canada has FINALLY been suspended

as he was seen at weekends dressed in mens clothing

:rolleyes:


Once again, if you pander to a delusion then expect to get played

embarrassing

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09...3771877557.jpg

Doesn't that psycho have his own thread? Trans isn't the same as drag, amd Canada isn't England.

Crimson Dynamo 03-03-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11267479)
Doesn't that psycho have his own thread? Trans isn't the same as drag, amd Canada isn't England.

it did but have you ever used the search function on Tibb??

Beso 03-03-2023 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11267458)
I swear this thread alone is a sad microcosm of the mechanisms at play all across the western world at the moment. Really troubling - where is the balance? I mean it is here in places but what, maybe 20% of the thread... and I think that's a pretty accurate reflection. A tragic cycle of misrepresentation, press hyperbole, alienation, defensiveness and emboldening.

I don't think any of this is going to end well at all. For anyone but a very, very select few. I really do increasingly get the impression we're being played like fiddles, by people who look at us like we're ants.



FAO alf.

Mystic Mock 03-03-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11267476)
BTW that pervert trans man teacher in Canada has FINALLY been suspended

as he was seen at weekends dressed in mens clothing

:rolleyes:


Once again, if you pander to a delusion then expect to get played

embarrassing

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09...3771877557.jpg

What's Transgender stuff got to do with Drag performers though?

Livia 03-03-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11267483)
What's Transgender stuff got to do with Drag performers though?

They're both men pretending to be women and seem to strive to exhibit the very worst traits of real women.

Crimson Dynamo 03-03-2023 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11267483)
What's Transgender stuff got to do with Drag performers though?

I dont know Mock maybe ask these people?


Beso 03-03-2023 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11267487)
They're both men pretending to be women and seem to strive to exhibit the very worst traits of real women.


As much as I agree with that statement there is one I can think off that makes me think there are a few exceptions.

Imo, this is one strong women in this video.


Beso 03-03-2023 06:10 PM



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