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arista 08-10-2023 01:31 AM

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arista 08-10-2023 01:34 AM

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arista 08-10-2023 01:38 AM

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[German tattoo artist, 30, killed by Hamas
while attending a music festival before the
militants paraded her body on the back of a truck
and claimed she was an Israeli soldier - as her devastated
family say they are in a 'nightmare'
Hamas militants have been accused of kidnapping Israeli
civilians and soldiers]

UserSince2005 08-10-2023 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11337828)

😭😭😭😭😭 killed because she wanted to live life!”!?!??

arista 08-10-2023 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11337829)
���������� killed because she wanted to live life!”!?!??

They did not take the time
to find out she was from Germany
and not a Israeli


[German tattoo artist, 30, killed by Hamas
while attending a music festival before the
militants paraded her body on the back of a
truck and claimed she was an
Israeli soldier - as her devastated family
say they are in a 'nightmare'

Hamas militants have been accused of kidnapping
Israeli civilians and soldiers]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nightmare.html

Ninastar 08-10-2023 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11337828)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10...6726297390.jpg


[German tattoo artist, 30, killed by Hamas
while attending a music festival before the
militants paraded her body on the back of a truck
and claimed she was an Israeli soldier - as her devastated
family say they are in a 'nightmare'
Hamas militants have been accused of kidnapping Israeli
civilians and soldiers]

I saw the video of her being dragged away and I knew there was no chance

****ing horrific.

arista 08-10-2023 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 11337854)
I saw the video of her being dragged away and I knew there was no chance

****ing horrific.

Evil to Kill her.


Peace Festivals were yesterday
so many internationals were invited.

This Attack from Hamas
was believed to be planned for months ago
for that Saturday.

arista 08-10-2023 05:31 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10...6723864770.jpg
[Palestinians are greeted by crowds after
returning from crossing the border into Israel]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...asion-war.html

Crimson Dynamo 08-10-2023 07:13 AM


Crimson Dynamo 08-10-2023 07:16 AM

1 month ago.....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F72aioKX...g&name=900x900

arista 08-10-2023 07:50 AM

The Israeli UK Ambassador,
in Israel for the Saturday Holy Holiday

Just spoke on Trevor Phillips, SkyNewsHD Live
she sadly confirmed Hamas have captive
one British Person in Gaza.

Cherie 08-10-2023 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11337863)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10...6723864770.jpg
[Palestinians are greeted by crowds after
returning from crossing the border into Israel]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...asion-war.html

All men, you don't see any women out celebrating the abduction, rape, torture and murder of other women, the cowards targetting the most vulnerable as their targets, women of all ages and children....great job lads

Crimson Dynamo 08-10-2023 08:15 AM

look at them giving the peace sign, ignorant brainwashed fools

bots 08-10-2023 08:16 AM

Israel has already cut off the electricity and blown up the internet in gazza, so reality will start to hit hard

MTVN 08-10-2023 08:26 AM

There's footage from the music festival of young people all dancing and having a good time with Hamas fighters paragliding in in the background. It's surreal. The festival was in support of peace in the region. That's where they snatched the German woman from and raped and murdered her

Western apologists for Hamas should bear in mind that if they just happened to be in the region - maybe as a tourist or doing charity work or whatever - Hamas would see them as fair game for being a Westerner on Israeli land. And god forbid if you had a female partner, relative, friend out there with you. Your solidarity with Palestine wouldn't count for much then.

They make no distinction between combatant and civilian and use rape as a weapon. All part of the dehumanisation of Jews and Israelis which is obviously a recurring theme throughout history

Stu 08-10-2023 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11337726)
If you must cut and paste propaganda do try and post a linked source

Human rights violations aren't propaganda just because they unsettle your own interior narrative.

Step away from the torture porn reporting and the sad truth is this is completely cyclic in nature. Hamas buff their control with Palestinians by showing strength against Israel, and Netanyahu strengthens his control over Israel by looking strong against the Palestinians.

Both parties benefit from these periodic escalations in their own way, and so neither really do anything to try and defuse the situation. And so as with the worst of conflicts, innocent Israelis and Palestinians on both sides of the border will pay the price, but neither political elite care about them which is why I am not going to cheerlead one over the other just because of identity politics or alignment with Western values. Israel's apartheid state has unlawfully evicted families purely on ethnic and religious grounds. They've separated families. They've systemically eroded these people's rights. They've tortured them. A lot. For a long time. It just hasn't made your front pages.

With Hamas and the apartheid state, there's only bad guys in this now. And it's true that it'll probably only end once Hamas are completely wiped out. Which could be this time. They have no chance against the IDF and less chance of getting their own land under international law back.

Oliver_W 08-10-2023 09:26 AM

Victim blaming.

arista 08-10-2023 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11337897)
Israel has already cut off the electricity and blown up the internet in Gazza, so reality will start to hit hard

Yes they have,
advised people to leave.

But getting into Egypt is not easy

arista 08-10-2023 09:36 AM

The Problem is
Hamas Gunmen,
went house to house in Israel
Murdering all in there.

It has been 50 years,
since this level of attack.


Israel Saturday was a Holy Holiday
perfect for Hamas killers to break in.

Stu 08-10-2023 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 11337915)
And so as with the worst of conflicts, innocent Israelis and Palestinians on both sides of the border will pay the price, but neither political elite care about them

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11337923)
Victim blaming.

You're going to have to help me out a little, here.

The Slim Reaper 08-10-2023 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11337900)
There's footage from the music festival of young people all dancing and having a good time with Hamas fighters paragliding in in the background. It's surreal. The festival was in support of peace in the region. That's where they snatched the German woman from and raped and murdered her

Western apologists for Hamas should bear in mind that if they just happened to be in the region - maybe as a tourist or doing charity work or whatever - Hamas would see them as fair game for being a Westerner on Israeli land. And god forbid if you had a female partner, relative, friend out there with you. Your solidarity with Palestine wouldn't count for much then.

They make no distinction between combatant and civilian and use rape as a weapon. All part of the dehumanisation of Jews and Israelis which is obviously a recurring theme throughout history

Western apologists for Hamas? Come on now.

Israel has been using these tactics for 60 years, including rape.



No one is defending the heinous crimes, but they've been forced to live under the very events you're scenario porning.

You can't be outraged at your own extremely specific framing, then pretend these events have come out of nowhere. It's about the Israeli oppressive state, not about historic anti-Semitism. The pretense that these events happen in a vacuum is the most intellectually uncurious game of make believe imaginable..

bots 08-10-2023 10:41 AM

Two Israeli tourists and their Egyptian tour guide have been shot dead in the Egyptian city of Alexandria, Israel's foreign ministry says.

A police officer allegedly opened fired on a group of Israeli tourists in the city. The officer is now in custody, reports say.

The Extra News television channel also quoted an unidentified security official as saying that another person was wounded in the attack.

It is the first such attack on Israelis in Egypt in decades.

The Slim Reaper 08-10-2023 10:46 AM

Jewish mid-east apologist for Hamas.


MTVN 08-10-2023 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11337945)
Western apologists for Hamas? Come on now.

Israel has been using these tactics for 60 years, including rape.



No one is defending the heinous crimes, but they've been forced to live under the very events you're scenario porning.

You can't be outraged at your own extremely specific framing, then pretend these events have come out of nowhere. It's about the Israeli oppressive state, not about historic anti-Semitism. The pretense that these events happen in a vacuum is the most intellectually uncurious game of make believe imaginable..

You have defended Hamas, and even basically expressed support for them, in this very thread so I think my framing was legitimate. And every statement acknowledging the horror of the attacks has always been followed by a 'but'.

You keep talking about what Israel has done as if there is no distinction between state and citizen which is the exact problem. Hamas don't make that distinction either hence they consider every Israeli a legitimate target including civilians and even including children. Can you show me a time when Israelis have carried an innocent woman's mutilated body through the streets to cheers and celebrations?

arista 08-10-2023 11:32 AM

A British Man
20 year old, working in the Army
was killed by Hamas


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aza-Hamas.html


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