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arista 05-05-2024 09:23 AM

Professor Michael Thrasher
on Trevor Phillips SkyNewsHD
pointed out Starmer has to get
more than Blair did.

Labour must get 326 seats, in the next General Election.

It is a Huge number.

On Thursday Local Election it was
Labour at 7 point ahead.
They would have to Double that.

Thrasher's Numbers are also in the Sunday Times.

Trevor's show in full is replayed on YouTube

"Possible" Hung Parliament.
Due to The smaller Parties and Gaza Vote blockages

joeysteele 05-05-2024 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11447246)
Professor Michael Thrasher
on Trevor Phillips SkyNewsHD
pointed out Starmer has to get
more than Blair did.

Labour must get 326 seats, in the next General Election.

It is a Huge number.

On Thursday Local Election it was
Labour at 7 point ahead.
They would have to Double that.

Thrasher's Numbers are also in the Sunday Times.

Trevor's show in full is replayed on YouTube

"Possible" Hung Parliament.
Due to The smaller Parties and Gaza Vote blockages

It is a 9% lead
34% over 25% is a 9 difference.
Not 7.
So he's wrong on that .
There were NO elections in Scotland and only Police crime commissioner ones in Wales..
So no hard data from there .

Plus in local elections, the Independent candidates take a higher share of votes than they ever do in general elections

Selective analysis of results is fine for fun.
However not always the best guide..

However hey, a hung parliament is fine by me in fact my wish for PR would only give hung parliaments.
A hung parliament would be the end of this shambolic government because there's no other party in parliament ( maybe the DUP possibly might),which would support this present Con party as a governing force.

So fine by me.

Vanessa 05-05-2024 09:34 AM

Come on Labour. Really rooting for them.
They can't be any worse than the Tories.

arista 05-05-2024 09:44 AM

[However hey, a hung parliament is fine by me]

Sure but
Labour will not like that.

joeysteele 05-05-2024 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11447249)
Come on Labour. Really rooting for them.
They can't be any worse than the Tories.

I doubt any other could be, even just as bad never mind worse, except perhaps the DUP and Reform.

However under this outdated and unrepresentative election system we have, realistically there can only be either a Con led government or Labour led government.
So the surest way to get this shower of a disaster hard-line heartless CON government out, is to vote Labour.

Where Lib Dems are the only alternative however in some seats too, it would be better voting Lib Den there to help get the Cons out too.

bots 05-05-2024 09:52 AM

i think the seats that labour would pick up in Scotland would give labour a good majority. It can't be ignored that labour will do much better there

joeysteele 05-05-2024 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11447250)
[However hey, a hung parliament is fine by me]

Sure but
Labour will not like that.

LABOUR have had to operate in almost hung parliament or tiny majority territory many times and did.
1950 to 1951.
1964 to 1966.
1974 then right through to 1979.

They'd manage because they can compromise which is something the Cons don't.

A Labour minority supported by the Lib Dems, or even Greens if they had a few more seats.
Or even the SNP.
All that could work pretty well in my view..
A Labour/ Lib Dem coalition or pact could work too.
It did in the late 70s for a fair period of time.

arista 05-05-2024 10:11 AM

Yes Joey Sure they would have to
deal with it.

And Scotland is the key
to the Labour increase

arista 05-05-2024 04:41 PM

In General a Low Turn Out

Labour Party
1,158 +186
Labour 1,158 councillors 186 councillors gained

LibDems
522 +104
Liberal Democrat 522 councillors 104 councillors gained

Conservative Party
515 -474
Conservative 515 councillors 474 councillors lost

Independents
228 +93
Independents 228 councillors 93 councillors gained

Green Party
181 +74
Green 181 councillors 74 councillors gained

Resident Association
48 +11



All numbers from BBC

Crimson Dynamo 05-05-2024 09:11 PM

do you agree with Emma??

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4...CKyUheA7NAjJ6s

Video:https://x.com/emmaroc33249448/status...80710008733853

arista 05-05-2024 09:54 PM

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arista 06-05-2024 05:09 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...e147d.jpg.webp

arista 06-05-2024 05:10 AM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...4a4cd.jpg.webp

joeysteele 06-05-2024 05:54 AM

Sunak has some audacity to warn of coalition under Labour

When his Party inflicted heartless hard-line policies in COALITION with the LibDems for a full 5 years.
They the Cons were propped up after 2017, by of all Parties the extreme DUP .

What utter hypocrisy from Sunak.
So only the Cons are allowed coalitions or support from other Parties, no other.
Their ignorance and arrogance just gets worse

arista 06-05-2024 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11447540)
Sunak has some audacity to warn of coalition under Labour

When his Party inflicted heartless hard-line policies in COALITION with the LibDems for a full 5 years.
They the Cons were propped up after 2017, by of all Parties the extreme DUP .

What utter hypocrisy from Sunak.
So only the Cons are allowed coalitions or support from other Parties, no other.
Their ignorance and arrogance just gets worse



Very True

arista 06-05-2024 08:31 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05...4945267087.jpg
[Members of the Blackburn Independents group who
adopted the Palestinian flag in their
campaign for election]

arista 06-05-2024 08:33 AM

This Stinks
the leader of the Green Party (Carla Denyer)
Live On BBC/Sky/Ch4 yesterday,
was not aware of this winner
who is an Extreme Muslim winner of the Greens.


[The moment a Green Party councillor shouts
'Allahu Akbar' after being elected in Leeds]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05...4944138216.jpg

arista 06-05-2024 08:35 AM

[Dozens of pro-Gaza activists are elected
to councils across Britain as fears grow
the Middle East conflict will dominate
many town halls after Muslim Vote group
issues Keir Starmer with a list of 18 demands]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...8-demands.html

Crimson Dynamo 06-05-2024 08:57 AM

Perhaps @TheGreenParty you may want to investigate your Councillor for
Gipton & Harehills seat Mohin Ali, to confirm this alleged
@X post is true.

(he deleted the account at the weekend...:rolleyes:)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GM1I6e6W...g&name=900x900

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1787165282445754798

arista 06-05-2024 09:04 AM

[Perhaps @TheGreenParty you may want to investigate your Councillor for
Gipton & Harehills seat Mohin Ali]


Yes today I hope
Good on the DM
to cover this Extreme Muslim
in HER Party

joeysteele 06-05-2024 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11447567)
[Perhaps @TheGreenParty you may want to investigate your Councillor for
Gipton & Harehills seat Mohin Ali]


Yes today I hope
Good on the DM
to cover this Extreme Muslim
in HER Party

I'm not sure Carla Denyer has much idea of candidates really.
Nor the co- leader of the Greens either.
Why do they need 2 leaders???

Caroline Lucas I really admire and she is a good representative of the Greens but Carla Denyer comes across not genuine, sorry for saying that.
She comes across to me as hiding real intentions of how far she'd want to go re controlling others lives on green issues.

arista 06-05-2024 09:32 AM

[I'm not sure Carla Denyer has much idea of candidates really.]


Sure but they all asked her yesterday
so by today she can say that an Extreme Muslim is wrong

arista 06-05-2024 09:33 AM

Lucas is standing down
So do not need her NOW

joeysteele 06-05-2024 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11447572)
[I'm not sure Carla Denyer has much idea of candidates really.]


Sure but they all asked her yesterday
so by today she can say that an Extreme Muslim is wrong

Well like all politicians of all Parties.
She's another who avoids dealing with more controversial matters.

arista 06-05-2024 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11447574)
Well like all politicians of all Parties.
She's another who avoids dealing with more controversial matters.


No

By now Conservative or Labour or LibDem
would have spoken on this Extreme Muslim Winner.


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