I get what you're saying, and you are right imo.

But there would be public pressure for Sunak/Starmer to retaliate with nuking the aggressor back, if we were to be attacked with a nuke ourselves.

No Brexit questions
a chance missed.

Sunak needed to win the opinion poll by a bigger margin, considering he appears to be far behind Starmer going into the debate.

Sunak got his Starmer £2,000 Tax message across


I think both would put up Tax.
They have no choice


Martin Lewis co-presenting GMBHD itv
said that £2,000 Labour Tax message,
was made up from working it all out
so he thinks it is roughly correct.................

Last night 4.8 Million watched it

1 Million watched Love Island

Ref: Times Radio Live

Only 15% of people bothered to watch the two comedians taking in turns to spout out ridiculous lies to their gullible supporters


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I watched the Lionesses beat France. Much more entertaining.

Last Night 32mins

Piers Morgan & Mick Lynch
Newsnight Live debated last night itv debate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...debate-who-won

Maybe everyone's happy with Brexit. :)

Regards the Starmer and Sunak debate, I thought Sunak came across as very aggressive.

Starmer a bit of a poodle. :p :shocked:

Agreed


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No they are NOT

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

:hee:

That's why it takes a stronger person to not give in and pander to the crowd. Let's say it's Russia and we got "fortunate" as it landed down by Plymouth/Exeter, and we got away with the minimal amount of casualties for a nuke, the minute we fired back and their satellites detected our retaliation, they would send over enough to just wipe us out. Because they aren't used, I feel like the power of nukes can seem a bit abstract.

Jeremy was right to show caution when being pressed on this issue during his time as leader, and it is only candidates who are weak (regardless of political persuasion) that need to act as though they're ready to destroy the world to appease the Galahads.

I knew It


This Friday BBC1HD 7:30PM NO STARMER NO SUNAK
7 Party Leaders.

It is Angela Raynor
and Penny Mordaunt


Stephen Flyn
Nigel Farage

ITV1HD Live 9pm :Starmer/Sunak TV Debate Tuesday 4 June 24
 

No way will I be watching that gobby madam Raynor spitting complete hogwash for an hour or more !


Edit
What a bladdy choice .. Rayner or Southgate’s England on at the same time

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Also it is 90 mins BBC1HD


7:30PM - 9PM

I will be watching it


7 there will be hard to control.


Later tonight I will change this thread title
for Fridays Live Event

Full List of the 7
on BBC1HD 7:30PM-9PM Friday


Conservative - Penny Mordaunt
Labour - Angela Rayner
Lib Dem - Daisy Cooper
Reform UK - Nigel Farage
SNP - Stephen Flynn
Green - Carla Denyer
Plaid Cymru - Rhun ap Iorwerth

On X

many are saying one person is missing
Unlike Farage he is an MP.


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Wonder why Ed Davey hasn't done this.
Also Oliver Dowden the deputy PM of the Cons.

I'm actually not keen at all on the new Plaid leader nor Carla Denyer from the Green party.

I'm not surprised and am even pleased to see Nigel Farage on actually.
I think he'll take out Penny Mordaunt if she starts hailing the Con record in government particularly on immigration.

So may be worth looking in on.
After the leaders farcical debate though with only 2 of them and that really inept and terrible presenter.on that one.
Let's hope the BBC organise this one much better as to controlling it.

As much as I dislike him, really Galloway maybe should have been included too.
In the interests of political fairness .

That's a good and fair point, that I agree with. Not a fan of him or his party, but fairness should be followed.

The greens are also being left out of debates, and this is also wrong.

Yes Galloway
Won his seat a Real MP

No

Slim

One Green Leader is on the list.

Talking about Scotland, where they've been completely excluded.

That is Fair
they were kicked out of power in Scotland

Galloway on there would be great television

Don't mean to be rude to Wales but Plaid are not exactly relevant for anyone outside of there