Disgusting.
Why would any husband let another man pick up the tab for clothes for his wife:fist:
All sounds like Robin Hood in reverse with this shower of $hits.

Meanwhile they got rid of Boris for being given a birthday cake :skull:

She works in the NHS, should be awkward signing off the deaths of the pensioners rushed fo hospital with hypothermia this winter.

It's very much giving me the vibes of Tony and Cherry Blair, they were both in it for all they could get

Rumours abound that Labour are going to row back on this .... watch this space

yep, we will see. At the moment there is no way labour will win a second term

I am not sure they want one they way things are going

The members and the voters that make their views known, ( the voters still sticking around that is), have been on about this since September last year.
We as members have never stopped complaining about it although I myself do not think winter fuel assistance should be paid to everyone of pension age.

However thankfully not just a good number but now getting close to a majority of MPs are now wanting this changed.
At least altered to take in more pensioners above the pension credit trigger.
If not a complete reversal.

There's one though at present not listening, certainly to us members and that is Ms Reeves.
Her sister Ellie is equally as annoying too in her dismissals.
According to Reeves there isn't an alternative to doing this it seems.
Which frankly I think she's completely wrong on.
There are alternatives and now I hope with heading to the majority of MPs on board to try to get a rethink for this year.

I've heard it said the Labour manifesto of 1983 under Michael Foot was the longest suicide note in history.
Well from any government this policy of stopping this winter fuel assistance, must surely go down as a deliberate throwing off the cliff of Labour and what it should stand for.
This has to be partly reversed.

I agree with bots, there will be no chance of any second term if this stays in place but for other things too.
Not the Farmers, I don't give a damn about those moaners
If it wasn't more like a cop out, I could be more convinced that it is looking like from this first year that Labour's hierarchy actually regret winning last year and don't even wish to next time round.

Yet none of this had to be, Reeves had other ways to make savings than this.
Plus the changes to qualify for PIP, is going to be another issue, we the members are furious about, plus now too a growing number of MPs thankfully.

This Chancellor needs to look elsewhere to make savings.
OR she should be made to go with all the chaos admittedly that would bring to the government.
Your Chancellor is the last person you want to lose or change.

£1.5 billion a year, and rising, housing illegal migrants last year Just saying...

We miss you Smudgie

I understand the row back was messily announced at PMQs today :laugh:

he just said he wanted more pensioners to get the allowance, he didn't say any more would actually get it. He is playing around with words again. That is exactly what Blair used to do with a smirk

Winter fuel will be given back to 8 million pensioners....the threshold last year to receive winter fuel was




if you earned a penny over that you could do without

the threshold now is

who is plucking these figures out of the air, that is some leap :laugh: and in my opinion way too high...but what do I know Im just a lowly taxpayer :laugh:

…I’m thinking that @bots won’t get the fuel allowance as he buys a super yacht some months…maybe not in the winter months, though…

£35k seems far more reasonable tbh if it's full household income... it's tough to accurately assess though, as a pensioner on £35k paying private rent has far less money for bills than a penioner living in an owned home with a paid-off mortgage. Any assessment should be fully means-tested not an arbitrary figure.

it depends on whether it's his year to live on lentils or live or his super yacht, he alternates

…that might create a bit of a headache for Rachel Reeves, she’s going to need a bigger calculator…

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That is a good point but now I am hearing that it is 35k per person, everyone will get winter fuel and it will be clawed back via tax which is a better system than having to fill in 16 pages of forms to get pension credit, I just find the gap incredible that they thought pensioners on 13k were wealthy....

£35k each for a couple in insane, imagine claiming a couple of hundred £ off your fuel bill when you're bringing in £70k combined and have no housing costs :joker:.

Are they gonna backpay last year’s money ??


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