Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500382)

"Being against the objectification and hypersexualisation of women is sexist! Saying that porn and prostitution is the prime example of objectification and commoditisation of women is actually denying them the right to choose a career!!!"

...shouted the fellowship of male TiBB members, in newly found harmony...

How the tables turn eh Liam :joker:. Don't worry, I was already aware that being a "SWERF" isn't au fait with the community.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11500398)

Not sure you can compare walk on girls who are basically advertising the sponsor to porn and prostitution? what about models who sashay down the catwalk wearing Alexander McQueen would you compare that to porn and prostitution? what about models on TV adverts, again are they there to be drooled over by 60 somethings, I think you are over exaggerating the effect these women have on men tbh

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11500396)

yep, floundering around after being exposed

pathetic

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500406)

I literally have zero interest in anything you have to say, Trumpet. You may continue to snipe from the sidelines, I'm not going to block you but I hand on heart promise that I'm not going to lower myself to engaging with you on any topic, ever. You revealed yourself to be worse than I actually thought during the England riots, if that's at all possible. It goes a bit beyond the usual forum nonsense really, doesn't it. You should be permanently banned. I'm going to pretend that you are. That shall be all.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11500234)

Because it gives the mistaken impression that people who look a certain way and dress in tight, skimpy clothes can be objectified because of the way they look. I would be horrified to see my daughter when she grows up, leered at by old men with a pint in their hand. To me, it's no different to a men following a young woman down the street, commenting and wolf whistling. Women are accomplished and multi-faceted, they're not here solely for the gratification of men.

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11500281)

Two completely different things surely walking down the street minding your own business and putting yourself in a situation where you are paid to do so? That said Darts currently have pom pom girls who dance on the stage as the players are walking on, no one pays them any attention, the audience are focussed on the Darts player they are like the warm up act at a gig, practically invisible, we really cant choose how women like to get paid because it doesnt suit us or we wouldnt want family members to do it, I think its as Parm said earlier more of a boost to the betting company who sponsor the event to give them more exposure as Darts audiences dont pay all that money to see women walking around in a dress given they could get much more free on pornhub or whatever, its the same argument as women only watch football to look at muscly men, just inane

Anyhoo I will be buying a blind fold for Mr C and will only remove it when play commences .....:fist:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11500290)

I see both sides of the debate really. Fundamentally I think it's a pretty harmless practice and while it might be a bit sad and a bit pervy the reality is that you'll never be able to completely de-sexualise society. Saying that I don't think it's needed and it doesn't really add anything. I've almost never heard people lamenting the absence of walk on girls since they were scrapped

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500330)

We'll agree to disagree there Mock; I think you're still (relatively?) young and that you realise that 50 year olds drooling over women in their 20's is not normal nor should it be socially acceptable, and I hope that the old gents on here arguing hard to the contrary doesn't give you the idea that it is normal. It is, in fact, normal to find people in your own age bracket more attractive than people young enough to be your own children.

But like I said I think you're still a relatively young man so it's not really possible to say how you'll see it when you're approaching middle age.

I hope for the best. Don't be like this lot :joker:.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11500439)

I agree with most of this post.

The only part that I don't agree with, is I think that the Darts want the walk on girls back for "eye candy" reasons, and personally I don't see the issue with that reason.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500448)

You don't see the issue with the concept of "eye candy" because you yourself enjoy it and you don't want to have to stop enjoying it, because you have no alternative frame of reference.

You might be a dad to girls one day and then I think (hope) you might see things differently, and when men your own age are drooling at girls your daughter's age, you might understand the issue.

Some dads still don't, unfortunately, but hey.

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11500456)

We love eye candy.

As the Rolling Stones once said

"I see the girls go by dressed in their Summer clothes"

We don't try to stop you ogling Sam Smith, so give us the same courtesy and the World will be a more tolerant place.

Attempt to stop being intolerant if you can, for all our sakes, basically.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500448)

You don't see the issue with the concept of "eye candy" because you yourself enjoy it and you don't want to have to stop enjoying it, because you have no alternative frame of reference.

You might be a dad to girls one day and then I think (hope) you might see things differently, and when men your own age are drooling at girls your daughter's age, you might understand the issue.

Some dads still don't, unfortunately, but hey.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11500467)

Listen, they are not kids forever they grow and most start having sex in their late teens just like their parents did

All this focus on older men drooling over twenty’s something girls is bollox
Because those girls are more than likely sucking on a cock and as disgusting as it will to the fathers of those girls it’s no different to when the parents were at the same age

Sex is part of the human race

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500468)

Once again, no one is being puritan about people enjoying sex, it's not the same thing as it being sold to sad old gits as a product/service. Obviously that's a reality of the human race too - but it's a bloody sad reality, and something being commonplace doesn't mean we have to accept it as normal.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11500473)

You need to accept that being attracted to the opposite sex is part of being a human and that will never change

You can take it all round the houses , with it’s not this it’s that but it’s human nature

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11500475)

I'm not sure that he likes Human nature. He's borderline Communist.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11500473)

You need to accept that being attracted to the opposite sex is part of being a human and that will never change

You can take it all round the houses , with it’s not this it’s that but it’s human nature

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11500475)

I'm not sure that he likes Human nature. He's borderline Communist.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11500477)

It’s a very unrealistic outlook by him when people are agreeing with you :joker:

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500483)

Apparently I've managed to unite every man on the forum under one banner of misogyny, even Liam joined in to fight for women's right to engage in sex work (because it's empowering, did you know).

It's quite heartwarming really. You could all go to the darts together and peek at some empowered ladies while they walk the men in. Liam can tell them they're empowered. Parmy can go to a business meeting with them. It'll be great.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy (Post 11500465)

Don't think I will stop being intolerant of slimey old geezers Alf, no.

By "all our sakes" I assume that's who you're referring to. The smelly old gits perving on young women who want to do it without judgement. Nah. I'm judging.