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BB22 28-06-2009 02:29 PM

It was an interesting little segment, that.

First of all, Halfwit's request was entirely reasonable and there would have been no argument at all if Sree had simply accepted that entirely reasonable request.

Second, the way Sree went to the other room to get Kris to "sort" things out was laughable and pathetic. Honestly, the man has no integrity at all. All he wanted was for his "cool" mates to come and gang up on Halfwit with him.

Third, Halfwit's request was so obviously a reasonable one that even Kris could not bring himself to side with Sree. However, he showed what a feeble character he is by simply mumbling or staying silent instead of saying, "Sree, stop being an idiot".

Fourth, once it became clear that Sree was acting like a fool, Halfwit should have started to defuse things while maintaining that he was in the right. Saying the same thing over and over again is irritating to people, even when what you are saying is right.

Fifth, Sree is a very, very unpleasant young man. But then most of us here already knew that.

30stone 28-06-2009 02:31 PM

One of the most annoying little people bb has had.

The_Dark_Wozzy 28-06-2009 03:38 PM

I just have to put my point across because the Sree fans are really ticking me off about this issue.

Sree WAS using Freddie's disability to dig into him, when he said, "I respect...", he didn't mean that at all, the tone he said it in and the way he said it proves he wasn't being respectful in any way at all (which is why people say look at that comment in CONTEXT). The whole point of saying, "How often have you been good at mathematics mate, what's 15x15? Exactly, thank you (which he said sarcastically)" was because he was dyslexic- Sree thought he couldn't do that sum, proving that he was more clever than Halfwit despite him going to Oxford. So clearly he didn't mean he respected his dyslexia, otherwise he wouldn't have made that comment, and the following comments, "No, no, no! I proved myself already, come at me with the mathematical magic, come then!" and wouldn't have used the tone he used. Sree thought he was better than Freddie, because he had dyslexia. And please tell me how saying that is respectful in any way? That was personal, the comment Freddie made wasn't, the comment wasn't even aimed at him, he was just trying to say he wasn't arguing with Sree.

That is why Sree said it. Sree was in the wrong he was being a bully, especially the way he went and got Kris to sort it out for him, knowing that Kris and Freddie don't get along at all. He could have quietly took aside one of Freddie's friends (Siavash or Marcus) and told one of them to talk to Freddie, but instead went to the dkhead gang, knowing none of them like him, knowing it would start a row, because he wanted people to have a go at Halfiwt for him- he just wants to show off his better social status to Freddie, proven when he started to give sly looks and smiles at the dinner table to the other members of the dkhead gang, when he kept glancing at Kris and Charlie during the argument with a sly smile and the fact he even got them involved in the first place! He wants to make Freddie feel second class and show off that he is in fact, more popular and clever than he is.

Freddie just said "Anyone with half a brain cell of intelligence can see I'm not attacking you, I'm not arguing with you..." he wasn't trying to say Sree wasn't clever, Freddie was just exasperated and trying to put his point across, the comments Sree said like, "Come at me with your mathematical genius." was a dig at Freddie being dyslexic and saying he is more clever and better than him, and he was being rude and nasty.

Don't you Sree fans get it? You might like him and find him entertaining, but WHY are you trying to justify this? If someone does something wrong, no matter how much I like them, I won't defend them. So why are you?

Had it been on the other foot, has Freddie proceeded to go and collect Siavash and Marcus to come and sort out Sree and then said "I understand and respect English is your second language, and you went to a good university, but how often are you good at speaking English mate? How come you can't string a single sentence together? (Uses example)? Exactly thank you. No, No, No! I proved myself come at me with the grammatical magic, come on then!." there would be uproar among Sree fans and rightly so. So how come, it's reasonable when Sree does the exact same thing?

I respect people on this forum like Sree, I used to like Sree, and I'm all for entertainment. I loved Niki in BB7, Charley in BB8 and Mario, Rex and Bex in BB9, but there is a difference between being entertaining and argumentative and being nasty and a dkhead. Sree is no longer funny, just plain NASTY.

He belittles housemates and laughs in their faces in a belittling way (when he was apologising to Noirin, in the kitchen with Rodrigo last night and telling Freddie to go and pack his bags), but hates when people belittle him or when they play pranks on him- now that's unacceptable! (The way he constantly goes on about respect, that people don't respect women and he somehow does and when Karly played a prank on him when hiding under his bed); Sree acts like he has superior intelligence to everyone else making their thoughts less worthy- his comments in the diary room, the fact he doesn't listen to hardly anyone and is always rude when people try and give him advice, unless of course that person is popular and telling him how great he is (Lisa and Karly); on top of the fact he doesn't want any lectures from Freddie, which is funny seeing as how he gives lectures to people all the time, especially about women (although he did have a valid point about Marcus).

He has completely changed from the first week, back when he was funny and entertaining, and his true colours have now come out.

Porcelina 28-06-2009 04:45 PM

As someone who suffers from numeral dyslexia I am this furious (:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad ::mad::mad::mad:) at both Sree and Big Brother for not repremanding his behaviour.

I dont find what he said 'respectful' I find it ******ing disgusting! And that fact that some people are sticking up for him is sickening.

Thanks Sree for putting the struggle for dyslexic people back about 40 years you ignorant sh*thead!

30stone 28-06-2009 04:49 PM

Exactly, i think Sree should have been warned for his actions, Saying that maybe they dont wnat to look as if they are "targetting" him

widdishins 28-06-2009 05:26 PM

30 stone,why is speaking the truth,stating facts to be deemed as targeting?

30stone 28-06-2009 05:28 PM

Hes not stating facts he was bellitling him

Saying about his dyslexia..

then asking him a maths question and giving him limited time to answer being rude to him straight after saying "exactly"

Thats not stating facts that insulting.

widdishins 28-06-2009 05:31 PM

what i'm saying is,why should speaking to sree about his unpleasant attitude toward freddie be seen as targeting,speaking out the truth cannot be targeting..imo.

30stone 28-06-2009 05:32 PM

Because in the same argument he was insulting and disrespectful...

widdishins 28-06-2009 05:53 PM

you abviously don't comprehend my point of view,my fault cos' i find it difficult to articulate..

Z 28-06-2009 05:55 PM

Sree is just something else, isn't he? He's very very rude and has no understanding of personal space or emotional intelligence.

Narc 28-06-2009 07:33 PM

Ugh, please, BB needs to come up with some hideous task just for Sree... something like what happens in Saw... Aww, maybe that's a LITTLE extreme...:spin2:

Benji10 29-06-2009 01:26 AM

The people who still dont think this is a big thing, commenting on Freddies Dyslexia, lets put it in another context.

Lets take Pete and his torrets, how would you feel if Sree had said to him something like "I respect you have torrets but can you not say **** in the next 30 seconds"

Or said to Mikey "I respect your blind, but how the hell do you know how much Garlic im using!"

All of these people have disabilities, and I guess they prefer not to, yet some mindless idiot has to bring up freddies in a heated row.

Its disgusting, and BB needs to know it, If freddy had said one thing about his race even in the mildist form he would have been out in a shot! Why is BB not treating a disability in the same way?

30stone 29-06-2009 01:32 AM

Some good points there benji

AhmedFan2004 29-06-2009 02:16 AM

But he brought up Freddie's dyslexia when they were having a calm conversation later that night, and it was all fine.

I also don't see anything wrong with the quotes stated by Benji.

'I respect' is clearly used as a pre-cursor to the comment, to avoid offending, in all 3 cases.

clj7 29-06-2009 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Daicelf
Quote:

Originally posted by clj7
Dyslexia means nothing to me! I found out I was dyslexic when I was 10, and it's never bothered me. But my brain can get stressed sometime but I hide it. None of my friends now I'm dyslexic and I'm starting University in September. Everyone can fight dyslexia.
My daughter has just finished her 1st year at Bangor Uni her grades are good and she has had a brilliant year. Having her dyslexia "statemented" has got her a laptop...printer....paper/ ink supply and various other goodies to assist her.

My best wishes to you and good luck at Uni:hello:...though you probably won't need it...we are naturally fighters.
good to hear :)

30stone 29-06-2009 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
But he brought up Freddie's dyslexia when they were having a calm conversation later that night, and it was all fine.

I also don't see anything wrong with the quotes stated by Benji.

'I respect' is clearly used as a pre-cursor to the comment, to avoid offending, in all 3 cases.
Thats why he used it, but you could tell he was insincere in saying it.

Only reason i think is so it looked less like a general low blow.

BB_Eye 29-06-2009 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by The_Dark_Wozzy
I respect people on this forum like Sree, I used to like Sree, and I'm all for entertainment. I loved Niki in BB7, Charley in BB8 and Mario, Rex and Bex in BB9, but there is a difference between being entertaining and argumentative and being nasty and a dkhead. Sree is no longer funny, just plain NASTY.
See this is the thing.

All five of those prevous housemates you mentioned could be very VERY VERY horrible when they wanted to.

Both Nikki, to a bigger extent Bex frequently went into childish tantrums and verbally attacked people to gain attention and approval from the other housemates. Bex and Dale's attacks on Mo were some of the worst bullying to have occured in the show since the shenanigans of Lesley BB6 and Grace BB7. Some of Mario's behaviour towards Stephanie is well on par with Sree's behaviour towards Noirin.

And Rex was probably the biggest bully and most objectionable personality from last year all together. Outclassing even Alexandra and Dennis if you ask me. He even took a pop at Mo's dyslexia when he was struggling to read the cue cards during his week of head of house.

This is why I can't understand how malicious personality like Makosi or Rex can be seen as a "legend" yet somebody like Sree can be turned into a hate figure. Are we not all forgetting that Big Brother is a cutthroat game and this is why we are entertained and held in suspense by it. I am not going to defend anything Sree has done or said, but at least respect the fact that he has contributed to the drama of the series and that him being evicted threatens to slow the series down to a halt and that meddling and intervention from the producers only thretens to interfere with the dynamics of the show.

Benji10 29-06-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BB_Eye
Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dark_Wozzy
I respect people on this forum like Sree, I used to like Sree, and I'm all for entertainment. I loved Niki in BB7, Charley in BB8 and Mario, Rex and Bex in BB9, but there is a difference between being entertaining and argumentative and being nasty and a dkhead. Sree is no longer funny, just plain NASTY.
See this is the thing.

All five of those prevous housemates you mentioned could be very VERY VERY horrible when they wanted to.

Both Nikki, to a bigger extent Bex frequently went into childish tantrums and verbally attacked people to gain attention and approval from the other housemates. Bex and Dale's attacks on Mo were some of the worst bullying to have occured in the show since the shenanigans of Lesley BB6 and Grace BB7. Some of Mario's behaviour towards Stephanie is well on par with Sree's behaviour towards Noirin.

And Rex was probably the biggest bully and most objectionable personality from last year all together. Outclassing even Alexandra and Dennis if you ask me. He even took a pop at Mo's dyslexia when he was struggling to read the cue cards during his week of head of house.

This is why I can't understand how malicious personality like Makosi or Rex can be seen as a "legend" yet somebody like Sree can be turned into a hate figure. Are we not all forgetting that Big Brother is a cutthroat game and this is why we are entertained and held in suspense by it. I am not going to defend anything Sree has done or said, but at least respect the fact that he has contributed to the drama of the series and that him being evicted threatens to slow the series down to a halt and that meddling and intervention from the producers only thretens to interfere with the dynamics of the show.
But at least 80% of those people got a warning at some point or kicked out (Dennis). What did Sree get........Nothing!

BB_Eye 29-06-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Benji10
But at least 80% of those people got a warning at some point or kicked out (Dennis). What did Sree get........Nothing!
I'd say 80% is a major exaggeration. Grace was never cautioned for her behaviour or even told off after the whole water chucking incident, Bex was brought to the diary room after spitgate but nobody was formally warned and only Dennis got kicked out. Bex was left alone to do as she pleased for the rest of her stay in the house and she remained as aggressive and unpleasant as ever. Nikki was also left to her own devices throughout her stay in BB7.

Formal warnings were only handed out in extreme cases such as with those involved in BB5's Fight Night and Lesley for using very strong verbal intimidation (ie threats) and I'm not even 100% sure I agree with Big Brother doing this, despite how much I despise Lesley for what she did.

The real reason the producers intervene in extreme circumstances is not out of a concern for the housemates' wellbeing, but due to the impending threat of censorship. As far as I am concerned, the influence regulators such as Ofcom has gone a long way in ruining the show all together. This even extends to the current furore over the lack of Live Feed. One of the main reasons Channel 4 has decided to axe is due to fear of another scandal, especially now that they are trying to claim government funding.

I know it all sounds a bit twisted, but if you're willing to go along with the idea of Big Brother as a programme, then you have to allow for the fact that things are going to happen in the house that you won't agree with and will probably make you angry. That is still no reason to make an annual ritual out of writing complaints to the broadcaster and regulator. Especially when the stuff on screen that's upsetting you might just be the reason it's keeping you watching. As far as I am concerned, having the producers intervening and telling housemates what not to do is a form of self-censorship. If any housemate is potentially causing serious harm to another, it is a matter for the Hertfordshire Police and if a housemate finds themselves in a state of distress that may be too much for them to handle, they could always, you know... leave.

28thapril 29-06-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Narc
Ugh, please, BB needs to come up with some hideous task just for Sree... something like what happens in Saw... Aww, maybe that's a LITTLE extreme...:spin2:
that would be so cool the ratings would saw through the roof--bet he fails---:devil:

Rollerrd 29-06-2009 09:02 AM

I think it's disgusting. I don't care how much Sree's devotees twist and manipulate the words Sree said - it was out of order.
I'm disappointed that BB haven't even warned him about it, I'm in the right mind to write an email to the necessary organisation.


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