I don't think it's undemocratic if people wish we were remaining in the eu even though we're leaving. In the same way it wasn't undemocratic for people wanting to leave the eu whilst we were a part of it. I think accepting the decision and supporting it are different things, because otherwise it's saying that people have to suddenly change how they think and change their opinions on something just because of how a different group of people have voted, I don't think that's democracy?

"You disagree with what has been voted for? How undemocratic!!!! How unpatriotic!!!!"

- that

Brexiters who accuse those who are warning of the difficulties of leaving the EU as “talking Britain down” are making a “pathetic argument”, experts have warned.

A study looking at the legal, constitutional and bureaucratic challenges that are involved in triggering article 50 has highlighted the difficulties Britain is likely to face during the negotiation period.

Professor Anand Menon of King’s College London, who is a director at The UK in a Changing Europe, the authors of the study, said the report will help to identify potential stumbling blocks that are routinely ignored by Brexiters.

“An irritating aspect of the current debate is the tendency of Brexiters to accuse those who warn of difficulties of talking Britain down.

“It’s a good line but a pathetic argument. Since when was rational debate a bad thing? Forewarned, surely, is forearmed, and this report will help identify potential stumbling blocks ahead,” Professor Menon said.

Parliament is likely to have a large of volume of work to identify and transport all relevant EU law after it is repealed and the negotiations are likely to require extensive coordination between new and existing ministries.

Professor Menon also added that Brexit could test Britain’s capacity to its limits and said a lot of uncertainty remains.

“Article 50 negotiations will be tricky and hideously technical but that is the easy bit. When it comes to the crafting of a future relationship, almost everything is up in the air.



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7393126.html

Ooops!
EU officials have discussed new laws to undermine the UK’s multi-billion pound clearing business after Brexit, London Stock Exchange chief executive, Xavier Rolet told a House of Lords Committee.

Financial transactions can currently be cleared anywhere in the world and London has a dominant position in the market, processing £440 billion of trades every day and supporting 100,000 jobs.
But the EU is now considering limiting the amount of euro transactions that can be processed outside the EU, so that it can force the industry to move within its borders after Brexit, according to Rolet.

Millions of euro-denominated transactions are currently cleared in New York, but a cap on US trades is now being considered, so that similar restrictions can be placed on London when it is outside the EU, a move that could fatally undermine the industry.

“I understand that some discussions have already originated in the EU for limiting the ability of US- based clearinghouses to clear euro-denominated securities by capping or somehow restricting their ability to engage meaningfully in their business,“ Rolet said.

The loss of euro clearing would cost 100,000 UK jobs, fragment markets and force banks to tie up an extra £70 billion in “margin” or cash to back up trades. That money that could otherwise aid economic growth, Rolet said.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7394341.html

Brexit court case: Government loses, May cannot trigger Article 50


Making Kizzy Happy

http://news.sky.com/story/may-cannot...-case-10642756

It did :)

If you're for the EU, is Labour your party?

https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.co...sitive-brexit/

This is why Labour are losing support, they didn't have the balls to go with the out campaign even though that's what their leader wanted

They can debate it , in both houses
no problem


But No Fecking Voting
Only Debates

I think you'll find the leader said he was 7/10 for brexit, he was referring to a tory brexit which is proving to be a cluster**** waiting to happen.

Did Labour campaign for leave?

And given the government didn't have a plan for Brexit, I'm 100 per cent sure the opposition had none either and still don't :laugh:

Yes Kate Hoey Labour MP
was part of Boris Leave group/


There is a Zone Up North Labour Voters
but they want out the EU

Don't split hairs Arista, Labour in the main and its leader were remainers, of course there was the odd dissident voice

Sorry, I meant 7/10 for remain, he didn't have 10/10 faith in tory brexit and as you say with good reason :laugh:

:laugh:you silly moo

Well Done Ian Dale Live on LBC
Right On.

You can not tell the Enemy your plan
until you Hit the A. 50 Button.

Then We will Bring Labour in Our office

its so Simple

I do not Split Hairs
Can Only post Facts


BotXXXDK777
No Fail


Life In The Fast Lane

Hey! that's Mrs moo to you! :fist:


(I had been working all night) :(

Thank You Andrew (ref : Sunday Politics 20/11/16)
James McGroay
co-executive director, "Open Britain" , did a video and edited all MP's of Leave in a fashion that created a FAKE VIDEO.


Sunday Politics BBC1
Well Done, again


Kirk did you miss that???????

I saw it.It was hilarious.Andrew Neil took him apart:laugh:
He chopped up bits of speeches.Even one from 2009.
He looked a mug.I bet he's not happy with that interview.

well well well

Arron Banks, Ukip's biggest donor and one of the first Britons to meet Donald Trump after his election victory, has denied claims he offered a “bribe” to a major UK political party in exchange for support for his Leave.EU Brexit campaign.

The allegation was made by senior figures in the Northern Irish Democratic Unionist Party, who said Mr Banks offered them a financial sum, thought to amount to six figures, if they chose to back the Ukip dominated Leave.EU campaign, instead of its rival Vote Leave.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7455416.html

Government amendment passed by 461 votes to 89 - a majority of 372

The government amendment has passed by 461 votes to 89 - a majority of 372.

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March next year Confirmed.

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