I'm not villifying you, I didn't even know you existed before a few minutes ago. Both campaigns have been awful, don't act like Brexit's been a light in the darkness because it's been just as bad, if not worse, than the leave campaign.

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No. It's because some people who have, this morning, developed an understanding and a passion for the subject that was missing yesterday... didn't get off their arse to vote, Mock.

A - I don't know.
B - Is a positive considering our Economy has improved over the decades since we've been trading with the EU.
C - I don't know the Maths of that, but I know that we contribute within the top 3 within the EU in terms of funding.
D - I don't know.
E - I don't know.

I'm no expert, it's just basic knowledge that when the UK has got one of the best Economies in the world (which is thanks to the EU) then you don't vote to make our Economy worse just because of Immigration or whatever other issues that you've got.:umm2:

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My head hurts from talking to the people at work about why they voted to leave. None have good legit arguments/reasons. One guy only voted because he was worried housing and hospitals would be taken up by immigrants and that was the only reason he voted which pisses me off because the chances of there being a huge change in immigration is slim, not all but a majority of the older generation seem to be so gullible and believe anything they hear. Expecting a lot of leavers to be regretting their decisions soon, if not already

i can't help but laugh. We had a democratic option to vote yes or no ... and we got a democratic result. Thats what being democratic is all about. I didnt vote for brexit, but it was the will of the people, so you accept it and move forward. Insulting people who didnt agree with you will not achieve anything :joker:

I'm not voting on a vendetta. I do not believe in the European project, I do not share their views and ideals. I've wanted to vote on Europe for most of my adult life. I was too young last time. I voted for our economy and to release us from restrictions and trade deficit so that we can flourish. I don't think you have read extensively on the issues from some of the things you are saying but please don't presume we are all as uninformed.

What a great post.

I haven't called out people for not voting?:conf:

I think you need to reread the post again as I said that I wish that more of us Remain voters (including myself) had've voted as we would've seen a different result.

How's that making me a hypocrite?

It was that X, it was so tricky to write down.

Clearly

Even David Cameron said before the referendum campaign that Britain would manage fine out of the EU.He only changed his mind when campaigning began just like with his Turkey u-turn.Will we be better off economically in the long run?Only time will tell but we are'nt going to sink.
These so called 'experts' have a track record for either getting things wrong or missing them completely.Not to mention some are EU funded.Project fear from remain about doomsday and WW3 did'nt wash with the intellegent people of this country who saw right through it.

As for why does it matter if you did'nt vote?Are you being serious?It's people with that attitude that lost this referendum for the remain side.If you and the many more people like you had used your democratic right to vote then we may still be an EU member now.You can't rely on anyone to use your vote.Only you and all the other non voters can use it.
To complain about the result after truly deserves this :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

You do realise that I'm in the right? We're agreeing on the same thing so take my side.

All I've said is that people voted silly you should be agreeing with me on that considering we are on the same side.

And I'm not the one doing the arguing, just because people have an issue with me on here doesn't mean that you can't use your eyes and not rewrite history.

I swear to god if people say that I'm in the wrong because "I didn't vote" or because some people like to take swipes at me even when they agree with me (like here) then I will seriously flip out.

I am allowed to have opinions just because I haven't voted doesn't lessen my opinion over everyone else's opinion.

But seriously Lucas take your bias against me away for a second and look at who's starting the "arguments" or don't bother posting at all if you can't look at debates objectively.

I didn't even ****ing start the argument so don't pretend that I did.

It's like that ****ing Adele thread all over again where I made a flippant comment and people pretended that it was a massive deal, where as if someone else had've said there would've been nothing said.

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I'm not trying to be 'clever' Mock, I am just trying to illustrate to you that you know so very little about a subject matter which you are now so vociferous about.

Admonishing and reproaching and insulting members for their 'informed' choices when you are so clearly ignorant of the subject under discussion, is pure folly.

You are simply NOT qualified to make the erroneous and sweeping statements which you are making.

Making well reasoned posts about our future is embarrassing.:laugh3:

I'm not insulting anyone, people are allowed to be unhappy about the decision just like the Leavers were allowed to scream bloody murder about it being rigged when it wasn't going their way.

No it doesn't.

And my kind of busy is a bit different to most people's which has made it hard for me to probably be able to ever vote on anything in Politics after this result.

Yes, I've got to agree with Livia - a GREAT post.

Well considering I got it bang on I think that you need to look at what the EU and the European Court of Law is.:joker:

Of course I think my opinion is right, it's my damn opinion. Why do people say this on forums? It's so stupid, it wouldn't be much of an opinion if I didn't think it was right would it?

Oh please, both campaigns were atrociously negative and focused on none of the main benefits of the EU, just the economy, trade and immigration on repeat ad nauseam, I've said this plenty of times.

So too did Cameron and co engage in fearmongering of their own with talk of another recession, but to deny that much of the Leave campaign used people's very real concerns about the lack of housing and jobs to blame immigration for it is just delusional. Ramping up and playing on people's sense of nationalism and scapegoating immigrants for societal problems they didn't cause is most definitely a campaign run on fear

You can flip all you like. :shrug: but that still doesn't change the fact that you are angry and complaining because you didn't vote and other people didn't achieve your desires for you. That's just barmy.

and what have the remainers been saying about the benefits of being in the EU?

Oh and apparently what Farage has said about Immigration is wrong is it Livia? And the fact that the public did indeed vote for UKIP to represent us in the EU is also wrong? Because the last time I checked these things happened, and the EU and the European Court of Law are separate entities.

So what exactly did I get wrong?:think: