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ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:07 PM

Anyway, I am just really quite glad that justice has been served.

But regardless Johnny won no matter what the verdict would have been.

He has the support of the huge minority and that speaks for more than anything.

I don't happen to think most people are wrong, clueless, unintelligent, brain washed social media addicts.

Some, yes of course, will just be your social media crowd and believing whatever, but you have that much support in huge numbers....such disportionate numbers supporting Depp then you really have to ask yourself why..... And no it's not because they don't know what DV is or how it can display itself in a multitude of facets.

ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172910)
Everyone knew that, so you dont need to be condescending.

Everyone felt the need to expose an abusive man though, hence the very long discussion about the video I asked you to post.

Really?....ummmmm, ok :joker:

They really didn't know that! Some didn't

He hasn't been exposed though, she has, quite clearly :joker:

Beso 02-06-2022 06:09 PM

Thomas..


Wouldnt you class what he was found proven for, abuse in itself?

ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172913)
Thomas..


Wouldnt you class what he was found proven for, abuse in itself?

We on about the video, again?

What was he proven for? :conf:

Liam- 02-06-2022 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11172914)
We on about the video, again?

What was he proven for? :conf:

Heard won one of her claims, the one where Depps lawyer accused her and her friends of roughing up the apartment to trick the police, nothing to do with any abuse allegations like people are so desperately trying to make it out to be

Beso 02-06-2022 06:23 PM

Depps lawyer working on behalf of depp, concocting a story to discredit them..trying to make the public turn against her..millions and millions of people..film studios...friends, perhaps family..

Isnt that a form of abuse in itself.

ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:26 PM

He wasn't proven for anything. He won all 3 of his sues. She won one.

I know the sun article/trial has been mentioned. Depp didn't have a chance then to prove his innocence. It was it lawyers. He has been able to in the US case have his say and defend himself

Also further evidence has come out

Zizu 02-06-2022 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172896)
Yes, ex friends....ones who had no reasons through loyalty to tell their version on her behalf.


She may have offered them all a decent wedge to back her up .. I honestly wouldn’t put it past her at all ..

Any links to their statements/ evidence ?


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ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172916)
Depps lawyer working on behalf of depp, concocting a story to discredit them..trying to make the public turn against her..millions and millions of people..film studios...friends, perhaps family..

Isnt that a form of abuse in itself.

I don't think a lot of the public are sheep nor do I believe they are gullible and niave to believe everything they read on social media.

I can't talk for what his lawyer did. Regardless of what he did or didn't say, I feel Johnny would have won public opinion regardless and his case, as he has done

Do I feel it's abuse, what the lawyer said, no I do not

ThomasC 02-06-2022 06:42 PM

She can appeal, well they both can.

If she does appeal though I can't see her winning it or being overturned unless they can provide new evidence.

Beso 02-06-2022 06:43 PM

It's not what he said on behalf of depp, it's why he said it..that's the thing I see as being abuse.

Beso 02-06-2022 06:47 PM

It's also ridiculous that heard had to convince the jury that there was sexual abuse from depp after starting the op ed with tails of abuse from her past.

Zizu 02-06-2022 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172927)
It's also ridiculous that heard had to convince the jury that there was sexual abuse from depp after starting the op ed with tails of abuse from her past.


The trouble I and many , many others have with her is simply that I do not believe a single word she utters ... that’s a major problem, right there


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user104658 02-06-2022 06:57 PM

Thomas, Liam et al; I don’t think anyone who disagrees with me on any topic is stupid. I promise.

I do think that anyone who believes that Johnny Depp wasn’t violent in his relationship with Amber Heard, whether that be mutual or not, is stupid.

I also think that anyone who says Depp isn’t being abusive in that video in the kitchen is flat out lying because it doesn’t support the side they’ve taken. Either that or they don’t want to see it as abuse because they think “hey, I might do the same thing”. In which case I think they’re an abuser.

Anywho - the appeal has already been announced, it’s years away, it’ll be decided by a panel of three judges NOT a jury, and there are already heavy question marks over evidence that was not allowed to be submitted (e.g. medical evidence, for those who were repeatedly asking why she “didn’t have any”. Several jurors also found to have been on social media or discussing the case with their family during the trial :facepalm:.

Strongly suspect she’ll win on appeal so… see you then I guess? He’s not won **** yet. Big sad. :hee:

user104658 02-06-2022 06:57 PM

Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11172929)
The trouble I and many , many others have with her is simply that I do not believe a single word she utters ... that’s a major problem, right there


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It won’t be an issue when the appeal is decided by a panel of judges and not the public, thankfully.

Beso 02-06-2022 07:03 PM

:crazy:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11172929)
The trouble I and many , many others have with her is simply that I do not believe a single word she utters ... that’s a major problem, right there


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Go see a dr and get it fixed then.

Crimson Dynamo 02-06-2022 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11172930)
Thomas, Liam et al; I don’t think anyone who disagrees with me on any topic is stupid. I promise.

I do think that anyone who believes that Johnny Depp wasn’t violent in his relationship with Amber Heard, whether that be mutual or not, is stupid.

I also think that anyone who says Depp isn’t being abusive in that video in the kitchen is flat out lying because it doesn’t support the side they’ve taken. Either that or they don’t want to see it as abuse because they think “hey, I might do the same thing”. In which case I think they’re an abuser.

Anywho - the appeal has already been announced, it’s years away, it’ll be decided by a panel of three judges NOT a jury, and there are already heavy question marks over evidence that was not allowed to be submitted (e.g. medical evidence, for those who were repeatedly asking why she “didn’t have any”. Several jurors also found to have been on social media or discussing the case with their family during the trial :facepalm:.

Strongly suspect she’ll win on appeal so… see you then I guess? He’s not won **** yet. Big sad. :hee:

You're at the "if I throw this shoe over the pub I win...ok?" stage TS

Go watch a Pirate film

user104658 02-06-2022 07:29 PM

Anyone following the Amber and Johnny trial?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11172938)
You're at the "if I throw this shoe over the pub I win...ok?" stage TS

Go watch a Pirate film


I wouldn’t risk throwing my shoe over a pub LT, you never know when it might unexpectedly cut off someone’s finger. Whoosh!

There is an appeal, we’ll see what happens :shrug:

GoldHeart 02-06-2022 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11172939)
I wouldn’t risk throwing my shoe over a pub LT, you never know when it might unexpectedly cut off someone’s finger. Whoosh!

There is an appeal, we’ll see what happens :shrug:

TS where's the source about Winona Ryder?.

Because she has always openly supported JD .

This was her statement =


The idea that he is an incredibly violent person is the farthest thing from the Johnny I knew and loved,” she said.

“He was never, never violent towards me. He has never been violent or abusive towards anybody I have seen

arista 03-06-2022 01:12 AM

Yes Big Error TS
Amber making up lies
about Kate Moss


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Zizu 03-06-2022 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11172974)
Yes Big Error TS
Amber making up lies
about Kate Moss


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Everyone was slaughtering AH lawyers but imagine trying to compile a case around such a compulsive liar .. the first thing they apparently say to new clients is that they have to be completely honest and don’t hide any information from the team .


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ThomasC 03-06-2022 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11172927)
It's also ridiculous that heard had to convince the jury that there was sexual abuse from depp after starting the op ed with tails of abuse from her past.

Come on, that op-op was about Depp she even admitted it at one stage

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11172930)
Thomas, Liam et al; I don’t think anyone who disagrees with me on any topic is stupid. I promise.

I do think that anyone who believes that Johnny Depp wasn’t violent in his relationship with Amber Heard, whether that be mutual or not, is stupid.

I also think that anyone who says Depp isn’t being abusive in that video in the kitchen is flat out lying because it doesn’t support the side they’ve taken. Either that or they don’t want to see it as abuse because they think “hey, I might do the same thing”. In which case I think they’re an abuser.

Anywho - the appeal has already been announced, it’s years away, it’ll be decided by a panel of three judges NOT a jury, and there are already heavy question marks over evidence that was not allowed to be submitted (e.g. medical evidence, for those who were repeatedly asking why she “didn’t have any”. Several jurors also found to have been on social media or discussing the case with their family during the trial :facepalm:.

Strongly suspect she’ll win on appeal so… see you then I guess? He’s not won **** yet. Big sad. :hee:

Contradicted yourself in the second paragraph there.

Yeah he was verbally violent and intimidating, but it really doesn't paint the whole picture. You just happen to see a video where he is reacting to something that seems to have been from the night before maybe, what that is, we don't know! I just find it really narrow minded to think that justifies him being a domestic abuser including sexual violence without any other context to what lead up to that video or those texts.

You just sound really bitter to be honest.

He has won, massively, whatever way you want to dress it up. No new case with judges or jury is going to change how most people feel about AH it will only cause her more misery as she's not going to be able to clear her name regardless. Maybe in a legal sense and a financial sense, but overall, nahhhhh.

That's just the reality of it and something you have to deal with.

Even if another judge, judges find her innocent it really will not make a difference IMHO.

Sorry, not sorry.

ThomasC 03-06-2022 05:07 AM

I hope that the real outcome from this case is that they both get help for their problems and that it highlights more domestic violence is a very real thing with MEN too. I hope more men feel able to speak out now against it and that it is less stigmatised. Just like mental health is stigmatised for men and a reason male suicide is rife because men feel unable to discuss their problems (maybe including DV) as it become so much about women's right and feminism we sometimes overlook men and there's this whole sort of stigma to just get on with it because we're suppose to be manly etc.

I hope Johnny gets help with his drink and drugs illness and Amber with her personality disorders (yes we can argue that, but it's my opinion)

I hope they can both move on and find happiness. It was clearly a relationship that didn't work and it got very nasty.....from both sides, but in two very completely different ways and contexts.

Crimson Dynamo 03-06-2022 06:47 AM

Any man who has had a stand-up row with his wife could be described as verbally violent and intimidating by someone else trying to make him look bad tbh

Zizu 03-06-2022 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11173001)
Any man who has had a stand-up row with his wife could be described as verbally violent and intimidating by someone else trying to make him look bad tbh


Exactly .... me and the wife have the occasional ‘difference of opinion’ and we simply give ourselves a little space .. .

... until I apologise

:)

Seriously though if we have had a lover’s tiff I don’t go pestering her constantly with meaningless questions until she flips ..


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