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Niamh. 09-01-2022 05:31 PM

This Omicron variant seems to be really mild

MTVN 09-01-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11127766)
This Omicron variant seems to be really mild

Your kids all recovered now Niamh? Did you manage to avoid it?

Crimson Dynamo 09-01-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11127766)
This Omicron variant seems to be really mild

yes the media are fuming, no doubt another variant will come along soon

more transmissible than Omicron and deadlier than Delta

:rolleyes:

Niamh. 09-01-2022 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11127771)
Your kids all recovered now Niamh? Did you manage to avoid it?

Yeah, they're grand, my daughter didn't get sick with it at all and Luke was no worse than if he had a head cold. Me and Gavin didn't get it at all, miraculously [emoji28]

user104658 09-01-2022 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11127796)
Yeah, they're grand, my daughter didn't get sick with it at all and Luke was no worse than if he had a head cold. Me and Gavin didn't get it at all, miraculously [emoji28]


There seems to be an element of pot luck, a friend of mine’s 4 year old had it and was coughing, sneezing and snotting on him and his wife for a full week (you can’t exactly isolate a 4 year old!) but neither of them caught it :think:.

arista 10-01-2022 02:54 AM

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arista 10-01-2022 02:56 AM

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arista 10-01-2022 02:57 AM

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user104658 10-01-2022 06:19 AM

Any realistic part of any “living with Covid” plan should involve funnelling resources into the NHS and sorting out immigration laws to (frankly) allow for free “no questions asked” movement of medical staff from anywhere in the world, attractive pay, and probably some sort of relocation assistance (subsidised good quality housing, maybe).

If they actually made a commitment to bolstering health services in a meaningful way then we’d be getting somewhere.

They won’t do that of course. Behind the curtain the Tories are still covertly trying to convert British healthcare into a heaving mess of competing private healthcare companies.

A plan like this needs a solid, cohesive, world class healthcare system and we don’t have one. Especially England & Wales, frankly. Scotland and NI are struggling for staff and resources but we do for now at least still have a consistent non-privatised healthcare system.

arista 10-01-2022 07:31 AM

A Mum on screen
GMBHD itv
will not let her 9 year old girl go to school
because of Covid-19.
Based in Wigan.

You seems scared.

Crimson Dynamo 10-01-2022 09:59 AM

DELTACRON
 

DemolitionRed 10-01-2022 11:03 AM

I like Dr. John Campbell. He did a peer review on needle aspiration that's worth watching. Apparently when the vaccines were first released, it was advised that the needle should always be aspirated because the muscle is full of small blood vessels and if this vaccine was accidentally put into a small vessel, then it would be an IV dose and not intramuscular dose.
During trials, genetically modified mice had a blood vessel in their tail injected with the vaccination and many of them got a pulmonary embolisms.

When AZ assessed the validity of Dr. Campbells peer review, they agreed with his findings. For some reason, the powers that be decided it still wasn't necessary to aspirate. I can only think its to do with the none qualified nurses that have been trained to give this vaccine. Aspirating would take more training and more time. :conf:

user104658 10-01-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 11127910)
I like Dr. John Campbell. He did a peer review on needle aspiration that's worth watching. Apparently when the vaccines were first released, it was advised that the needle should always be aspirated because the muscle is full of small blood vessels and if this vaccine was accidentally put into a small vessel, then it would be an IV dose and not intramuscular dose.
During trials, genetically modified mice had a blood vessel in their tail injected with the vaccination and many of them got a pulmonary embolisms.

When AZ assessed the validity of Dr. Campbells peer review, they agreed with his findings. For some reason, the powers that be decided it still wasn't necessary to aspirate. I can only think its to do with the none qualified nurses that have been trained to give this vaccine. Aspirating would take more training and more time. :conf:

My wife was baffled that they didn't aspirate, and then doubly baffled when she googled it afterwards and learned that the official advice for Covid vaccines has been that they don't have to. It's not that long ago she got her injection training and they absolutely hammered home the importance of aspirating at the time :think:.

Zizu 10-01-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11127900)


What the hell is Deltacron !?

It wasn’t even a thing when I went to bed last night :)


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Zizu 10-01-2022 11:23 AM

Coronavirus Outbreak
 
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11127928)
My wife was baffled that they didn't aspirate, and then doubly baffled when she googled it afterwards and learned that the official advice for Covid vaccines has been that they don't have to. It's not that long ago she got her injection training and they absolutely hammered home the importance of aspirating at the time :think:.


Sooooo .. when I had my first two jabs ( in hospital) I don’t know if they aspirated them BUT both nurses had to wait for the woman in charge to come and check the syringe before they rammed it into my arm .

Now when I had my booster and flu jab ( same day - different arm) the woman in the pharmacy booth just injected me .. no checking by anyone else .



“ Aspiration before injection of vaccines or toxoids (i.e., pulling back on the syringe plunger after needle insertion but before injection) is not necessary because no large blood vessels are present at the recommended injection sites, and a process that includes aspiration might be more painful for infants “


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user104658 10-01-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11127930)
What the hell is Deltacron !?

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Zizu 10-01-2022 11:33 AM

Coronavirus Outbreak
 
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11127933)


Cool ... bit overdressed but cool nonetheless


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DemolitionRed 10-01-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11127931)


“ Aspiration before injection of vaccines or toxoids (i.e., pulling back on the syringe plunger after needle insertion but before injection) is not necessary because no large blood vessels are present at the recommended injection sites, and a process that includes aspiration might be more painful for infants “


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Blood vessels are closely intertwined with skeletal muscle tissues and because vaccinating is a blind procedure, aspirating just ensures the needle tip has gone into desired location. In many instances, it makes little difference when a vaccine is given intravenously versus intermuscular, but during the trials for the Covid vaccine, it was discovered that messenger RNA vaccines should never be given intravenously.

DemolitionRed 10-01-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11127928)
My wife was baffled that they didn't aspirate, and then doubly baffled when she googled it afterwards and learned that the official advice for Covid vaccines has been that they don't have to. It's not that long ago she got her injection training and they absolutely hammered home the importance of aspirating at the time :think:.

Doctors are always trained to aspirate as a cautionary measure. This is why Dr. Campbell was alarmed enough to investigate further.

Zizu 10-01-2022 11:55 AM

Coronavirus Outbreak
 
Deltacron !!



Scientists in Cyprus have found 25 cases of a strain of the coronavirus that they say combines elements of the delta and omicron variants, dubbing it “deltacron,” with a high proportion of the variant found in patients hospitalized for Covid-19, a professor involved in the identification of the new strain

Deltacron cases were found in 25 samples taken in Cyprus, of which 11 were from patients hospitalized with Covid and 14 from the general public, according to Cyprus Mail, a local English daily.

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Cherie 10-01-2022 12:44 PM

So I guess that means Omicron has watered down Delta, more good news!!!!!!

:pipe:

bots 10-01-2022 12:54 PM

Cyprus has a tiny population with little to no facilities. I would take everything with a large pinch of salt until it is proven elsewhere

arista 10-01-2022 01:18 PM

Sure African Botswana Omicron Covid
and India's Delta Covid
are Brothers

All From the Start in China.

Zizu 10-01-2022 02:57 PM

Coronavirus Outbreak
 
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11127962)
Cyprus has a tiny population with little to no facilities. I would take everything with a large pinch of salt until it is proven elsewhere


But if THEY have found 25 with poor testing /facilities doesn’t that suggest that there maybe thousands undiagnosed ?

Plus it’s a massively popular tourist destination soooooo

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