it wouldn't surprise me if this was just a little moment in an ongoing argument. i think she was defending a friend in her own monosyllabic/ reactionary kinda way. freddie wasn't talking; he was accusing David in front of all his friends. i would have been in like a shot eventually too.

don't get me wrong now.... i'm not a fan of lisa's or David's, but that was nuts on Freddie's part to suddenly have digs at David over nothing.

I think Lisa should be kicked out for that outbust, she was very agressive and just to walk into a conversation and react like that shows what sort of person she is, I feel that David reaction was correct and fair.

I don't feel Halfwit was bullying David as I don't think David is someone that can be bullied, I understand why Halfwit felt the need to let David know what sort of person Lisa is but at the end of the David has had the foresight in watching the show before he came into the house and now is his judgement call. You are know by the company you keep my mother always saids.

Some people think lisa should be kicked out for simply existing. :rolleyes:

Yet halfwit the twit can do whatever he likes and gets his little head patted.

He was laughing at Lisa's foul mouthed reaction! Nothing more. Would you have preferred it if he started calling her names and shouting back to her? He showed that he is better than her in every way by not stooping to her levels of vileness

Freddie behaved well as always, if you see the whole thing. Lisa was being foul mouthed and aggressive and freddie instead of behaving on her level laughed at her. I dont see any problem here at all. Lisa was being lisa and freddie was being freddie, no change at all!

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I think for the first time Lisa was entirely justified in protecting her friend from Freddie. He was acting like a prat, accusing David of gameplaying in front of the group.

Freddie did not behave well in this situation at all. He had no right to question David over who he's decided to befriend in the house, and then to suggest that it's some kind of elaborate gameplan on his part is just plain silliness.

It was an uncalled for attack on David. Bea has the chap wrapped around her finger.

Wouldnt be the first time a housemate has told a porky would it? Why didnt he just say outright David I saw you take the butter so Bea is right about that? Smitten men also never tell tales to defend the woman they like, now do they?

It's funny how one of the threads on the official CH4 site said it was Sophie and Rodrigo were the ones helping themselves to extras of cheese on toast, since the initial arguement about the butter, that comment was removed.

Cant have anything there thats casts our little Fuddie in a bad light can we?

The whole nomination blow up, and subsequent arguement in the kitchen was removed from the daytime highlights airing. Admitted it could have been because of the language, schedule overruns or some such,(the program was filled with extra little bits of interactions that were featured last night) but it did remove the screeching banshees that were Rodrigo and Lisa, it also removed what could have been seen as Team Marcus beating up on David till Lisa rescued him. (Opinions can be very subjective cant they?) No I dont view it like that.

Wow you've got your Halfwit loving goggles on right now. If anything the fact that he sided with Lisa straight off the bat shows he has absolutely no gameplan. The only reason Freddie went after David is because he's in love with Bea and cant see her for the worm that she is. Lisa was spot on to come in as she was helping out her friend.

People seem to forget that we never grew to like Freddie we were forced to because of his treatment by the other housemates.

I think people have to understand the definition of the term "Bullying". Bullying is not confronting someone or having a one off argument. There are four types of bullying

* Verbal bullying - such as name calling or put downs, threats, teasing, including sexual harassment and innuendo (it might also be extended to written form through email or sms).

* Physical bullying - being punched, tripped, kicked or having your belongings stolen or damaged. It might also include sexual abuse.

* Social bullying - being left out, ignored or having rumours spread about you.

* Psychological bullying - you are given dirty looks or stalked, often less obvious or direct than other forms of bullying or making you feel intimidated or manipulated.
From: http://au.reachout.com/find/articles...ing-what-it-is

Bullying is so bad in the hospital system (where I work) that we actually have a "No Bullying Policy". Unfortunately it doesn't stop it.

There was NO bullying in that situation from what I could see, it was a heated discussion. However Freddy experienced a lot of bullying early on which I'm not going to go into to.

Agree agree agree. What sort of a game plan is it to hook up with an unpopular housemate? ?Hey freddie work that one out because i am lost. Was he not intelligent before? Did he not think to himself as the words formed in his mind 'hold on a sec surely the best gameplan is to hook up with a popular housemate like bea has with me..oops?'. When people gang up on a percieved weak opponent it smacks of cowardice and intended bullying (not that they achieved it). The way bea and marcus and freddie literally had him surrounded and were mocking his obviously passioned comments was nasty and lisa (being a bully herself could smell it a mile of as could sophie who looked petrified and was clinging to david) was empowered to do right for a change and i say good for her. Nothing worse than the bullied becoming a bully, bad move freddie, and for god sakes stop passing the responsibility of his behaviour onto bea.

I hope that after tonight's HL episode, Lisa and David get the support they deserve. :thumbs:

David is gross. Freddie isn't.

Simple as. Get David out :spin2:

he just laughed at the barking dog lisa..it was beautiful!!!!

It could be argued David has been a victim of both:

* Social bullying - being left out, ignored or having rumours spread about you.

* Psychological bullying - you are given dirty looks or stalked, often less obvious or direct than other forms of bullying or making you feel intimidated or manipulated.

Social bullying in that Freddie, Bea and Markus have spread rumours about him stealing food...this stemmed from Markus's jealousy about the diary room incident.

Bea manipulated a situation where she played the victim and accused David of bullying her, she patronises him saying she thought she was a friend, but was saying some pretty nasty things behind his back (yorkshire pudding, stupid, theif). David hadn't done anything to deserve such treatment, befriending Lisa, does not justify the behaviour of Freddie, Bea and Markus towards him.

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you beat me too it!!

I'm going to get a reputation for being a Lisa fan at this rate :wink:
Lisa behaved pretty badly in the first couple of weeks. But that doesn't justify the nasty comments, and the rose tinted views of the likes of Freddie, Bea and Markus 'fans'. I don't care who it is, watching anyone bully another person is awful.

* Verbal bullying - such as name calling or put downs, threats, teasing, including sexual harassment and innuendo (it might also be extended to written form through email or sms).

HALFWIT : Oh yeah thats it lisa your makin me cum,give me more make me cum yeah yeah.

MARCUS : I wont quote him but he gave out huge amounts of verbal name calling to David including attacks about his weight.

* Social bullying - being left out, ignored or having rumours spread about you.

BEA and HALFWIT : Laughing at David and Lisa being at the bus stop.
Attacking David for being Lisas friend and accusing him of having a gameplan,also in this fight tonight we saw halfwit not happy that lisa had any support in the house,he seriously wants to isolate her,hes said similar on many ocassions.

Seems to me your not looking close enough to what has happened over the past few weeks...marcus bea and halfwit have all displayed characteristics from your description of what a bully is.