But you obviously have been cuz you don't see anything wrong in what he does.

nominations
 

i think bb have made a mistake by letting them talk about nominations,this means lisa and her cronies can discuss who to put up,like they obviously did this week,cos charlie said "How do you know that me lisa david and rodrigo havent nominated you" SO they obviously discussed it but bb wont show ,this to the public,if you look back siavash is the only housemate not to backstab anyone at all

probably cos there is nothing wrong,you have your opinion and others have theirs

He does see it, he just doesn't want to accept it.

They'll defend him to the death, even with his cheating and ability to throw people in the middle of crap... remember the lager thing with Tom? But they don't see any of it.

cheating with a girl he had known for 4 weeks!if marcus is supposed to be vashes best mate,ifeel sorry for him he stabs siavash in the back every chance he has

Don't deflect things onto Marcus and nobody is terribly sure as to how long they were going out for which is basically irrelevant anyway. Going out is going out as far as I'm concerned.

Do NOT post messages all in capital letters. You are aware that this is against the rules.

This gameplan is cunning, many people will not see this. A shame, as he is cleverly fooling the public AND HMs. He had a dual gameplan; Martyr + Victim. This, approaching final week, to push for £100k. Bare in mind, eviction this week or finishing 4th/5th next week, is trivial; it's about going for £100k.

Part 1 - Martyr

The idea here, is that he makes himself look like a martyr and a brave hero for putting himself up for the public vote. This is congruent to his 'No Free Rides', 'Anti-Scheming', 'Put Myself Up' ethos that he's been vocalising.

Based on his calculations that himself and David were on 3 noms each (turned out Rod fooled him though):

=> He could easily nom David, hence David vs Marcus eviction, saving himself. BUT; this contradicts the described ethos above. It makes himself look schemy and cowardly.

=> He can nom David and put himself up in a LIKELY 3-way eviction. Perfect; he looks awesome for taking the plunge, but also knows that David will get evicted. So he looks great but stays in the house - Part 1 Complete - Martyr

Part 2 - Victim

This was the cleverest part of it all IMO. Many FMs, including Siavash fans, realised what he was doing in Part 1. Trying to boost his popularity/appeal whilst using David as a safety net. But in this part, he really plays it well.

At the table, in casual conversation, he decides to tell Rodrigo out of the blue - Without prompt or questioning - That he decided not to nominate. But why do this ehhh?Everyone knows Rod's temper and how he hates not nominating, rule tampering. Rod PREDICTABLY reacted, and told everyone ...

Part 2 Completed - Everyone gets angry at him, and he keeps his calm and trys to defend himself, saying 'But I only put myself up; it doesn't affect you, I'm doing David a favour too, it's now 3 of us. What's the problem?'.

So now he looks like a martyr, getting victimised by Rod and Co. So Part 2 Complete - Victim

END RESULT:

He risks himself being up for eviction, 3 way, or even 2 way (as it so happened!) but done this to bolster his popularity and look awesome - A great plan to push for the £100k.

Why risk this? As I said at the start, getting evicted now or finishing 4th/5th next week; similar. It's now time to gun £100k; Vash style.

Gameplan Cracked. :thumbs:

he looks like he smells 'of arse'

i think "ange7" pretty much covered it but lets break it down..

what siavash said was,IF he nominated david it would be david/marcus going up,there for siavash would not get his chance to go up,he then thought perhaps he and marcus have enough nominations so by voting for david he would ensure a 3way,which would be less risky as he thinks marcus is more popular than him,he then said "**** it" and decided not to nominate,therefore not allowing david to be up so if it was to be a siavash/marcus affair then it would be fair if he goes.. nothing more..

to a point i agree it seems a little tedios the amount of time spent thinking through such things,but hes not the only one to do it,lisa/marcus/freddie always thinking about the game.. so siavash perhaps does talk about the game a fair bit..

the way he sees it,if he goes then fair play,but if he stays then atleast he would have been chosen to be in the final.sophie made much the same point and so have others on several occasions.. so in any case,siavash/marcus are up..who ever goes will atleast know they were hand picked by the public to be in the final..

lmao this double act with setanta needs to stop,brother you have your opinion and im not calling you ignorant,so kindly quit patronising those who have an opinion that differs from your own...

im pretty objective as it goes,and if siavash or whoever my favourite is had put a foot wrong i would be pretty quick to say so,but on this occasion,nit picking will get you no where.. siavash chose not to nominate just like marcus/sophie had planned to last week,no one want to jump in and call marcus a game player?okay then...

from my perspective being in a house where your being told when to get up,what to do and what not to do and generally having no control.every once in a while you may want a little bit of the control back, im sure when you was in school or in employment there are regulations that you might not have always followed,now this is a game show,so its not that big of a deal had siavash been the only housemate to ever break a rule,but he isnt anyway so why this need to character assasinate a housemate i dont know..

why didnt he ask everyone to nominate him?perhaps because they would all jump at the chance to attack him,or perhaps because he wants to be a hero.. had he been the only housemate to refuse to nominate you would have a point,but he isnt,so its foolish to think only siavash is the one game playing..

Lot of 'perhaps' in your post. And Siavash wasn't risking much in his mind. He explicitly said in the DR:

1) "If I nominate David, I will definitely not go up this week. It will be David and Marcus. If I nominate David, it is likely that it's me, Marcus and David ... Or, just me and Marcus. Do you take a risk of going against Marcus on your own, which means I will probably go home. Or do I let it just be David and Marcus. No free rides Biggie ..."

2) "Marcus has like 4/5 votes, David has 3 votes probably, and I have 3 votes. So it'll be me, David and Marcus."

He's gunning for the £100k. Yes, the risk of a 1 vs 1 eviction was possible. But he was willing to take it. See my gameplan post - What difference does it make if he's evicted this week, or finishes 4th/5th?

He stepped up, took a calculated risk, to scheme to a £100k - fooling the public, thinking he's a martyr and a victim.

And ange never explained why Vash didn't ask HMs to nom him. Like you said, 'perhaps' this, 'perhaps' that. No solid alternative reasoning. Just annoyance from Vash fans. :whistle:

AhmedFan, can I just ask you why you seem to have this intense desire to expose Siavash's game plan, when pretty much EVERYONE in that house has one?

I'm just curious.

If Marcus was your favourite HM, and you were trying to sway people to voting Siavash out this week for that reason I could understand it somewhat.

But Lisa, who potentially has one of the biggest game plans in the house this year, is your favourite, and fair play to her btw for her game plan being so successful.

I just don't understand your motives for repeatedly making these posts about Siavash and not any other HM?

Well what's wrong with me exposing it then? Why worry? If as you say, who cares, since they're all on a game-plan anyway?

If Lisa gets exposed (and slated ...) then why not expose Siavash?

My post is rather cleverly thought out IMO. You have to accept, it is a VERY cunning, deceiving gameplan, and he's acted totally in line with it.

I know... he says its ok for Lisa to have a gameplan but vilifies Si for having one :conf:

I think he sees Siavash as competition against Charlie, as he said he has a bet placed on Charlie, therefore wants to get him out

If Lisa's gameplans are exposed and whatnot, then I am entitled, and accurate, in doing the same with Siavash. I'm not going to hide it just so people are fooled and think he's a lovely, innocent hero. Sorry. :rolleyes:

I'm not saying that I'm worried, and in fact I do believe that yes, Siavash has a game plan, he's admitted as much in the past anyway so it's no big woop to me tbh.

You still didn't answer my question as to why you keep making these posts about Siavash IN PARTICULAR when you freely admit to other HM's having game plans too?

You do make good posts and very well worded and thought out, I'm not denying that.

I'm just intrigued to know what makes you post about certain HM's and not others? You did the same with Freddie and Bea and now Siavash. Why not do a positive post for change aboout your favourite HM Lisa?

Because other gameplans are exposed and discussed, and those HMs slated accordingly. Sree and Lisa have had their FAIR share (:rolleyes:) of talk and slating on the forum. Very over the top, for weeks and weeks. Others get off lightly.

And of course, I do want Marcus to stay over Vash. I'm not denying that, and not denying that there's a sense of timing to my posts.

And yes, positive posts about Lisa, will come in due course - timing. Ultimately we want our faves to win, and 'enemies (lol) to go.

But like I said, if x HM gets exposed and slated, and y HM does as well, then any other should get the same treatment; if the evidence is there and they are worthy of that type of discussion.

Well in that case, fair enough, and I get where you are coming from now. Thank you for answering my question!

I was really just interested in your reasons.

It's just you do get so many blind hatred posts on here, and some people can't back them up with any real motive or reasoning. That's why I was interested to know your motives.

It's all good. But I still hope The Vash stays on Friday!

:laugh::wink:

Good night and take care. :spin2:

To put a lighter spin on things ... whoever stays, is up in the Tuesday eviction anyway and likely to go (against Sophie I imagine).

Ohhh well. :tongue:

Oh you just HAD to didn't you?! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

So are the HM's definitely nominating again? It's not vote to win after Friday?

That's the conscensus at the mo, there's an article about it on Big Brother Online site, saying this, and they are reputably very accurate. Nobody has come out and provided proof against it, it seems.

Time will tell, but from what I've read on DS and even on here, they are gonna nominate for one final time this weekend. Probs Sat.

We shall see. Another money spinner by BB. Another eviction AND Vote to Win, rather than a Vote to Win only; then eliminating last placed HM.

LOL, makes sense. :rolleyes:

OP, Big brother will not let two favourites go up again on tuesday. They need some popular HM's for the final.