Im sure there are miricles, im sure they happen everyday we just dont look for them, we focus on the shiz....

Again, I'm trying to be patient here, but you're coming back with the same tired routine. Bring me something new, that's tangent, that we can discuss, because all I'm getting from you, is some very mystical sounding nonsense.

You're the open minded one, describe "some form of life force, be it residual energy from some form of trauma in a persons life replaying or even a spirit of a dead person?" to me. How does it work? When the brain/organs shut down, does this phenomena float out of your body?

Because unless you have a theory, other than slightly nuanced versions of your previous arguments, then there is no need for me to change my reply.

Describe this imprinting process to me.

Anyone can throw up mystical sounding examples that don't really mean anything, which is exactly what you've done.

I'll stick by my point, there is absolutely no evidence in any kind of afterlife, there is no evidence that ghosts exist, and there is no evidence that the tooth fairy exists, either.

May I ask where you got your avatar from? There are a number of religious/pseudo-scientific websites that use the same one. Is this just a coincidence?

One massive error that people in general make, is believing that people who believe and trust in the scientific process, are completely closed to change.

That's just not true. New discoveries, evidence and theories are what keeps our knowledge expanding. Where is your avatar from?

I guess, the "evidence" for both is essentially the same though, normally anecdotal or from questionable photo/film, I'd say there's a lot more documented evidence of miracles than there is of ghosts

The Catholic Church spend quite a lot of time looking for them

I'll humour you - what about outside of our solar system?

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/kepler-22b/

Absolutely, your initial pondering was correct, it doesn't make sense. I just tried to offer a reason that it might be the case. Like you, I see no reason why the two things are treated differently.

I don't think there is that many miracles that they have certified. They're usually the ones to be most skeptic at first.

That's not really true anymore. The Catholic church are in the process of beautifying lots of people for really vague reasons. For instance, one of Mother Teresa's miracles, was a lighting effect when she was interviewed on film, once.

I might be just thinking of Lourdes then. But they have their own investigation team when they are claimed I think lol Not kept up with any of that for a while though

Dont humour me... Are we delving back into hypotheticals now?....what if? ..if only?....
And I am less than blinded by that website my 15yr old son could do a better job!

I don't know a huge lot about it but with John Paul II his supposed miracle also seems very dubious, I think Benedict just confirmed it in order to beatify him

I remember watching a documentary about the miracle of the Bleeding Host. It was tested and had started to bleed real human blood and was real flesh in front of a congregation during a mass.
This has loads of details; whether you believe it or not it's very interesting. Matched the blood type of that found in the Turin Shroud.

http://www.indefenseofthecross.com/E...c_miracles.htm

So good website design is the key to you accepting that life is a "possibility?" Not proven, or certain, but a possibility.

Quite interesting, although that film isn't very clear. Has anyone come up with a debunk or anything?