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Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther (Post 5254470)

she spews to much venomous poison about everyone , Im beyond caring whether shes racist sexist or whatever other ist you can think of....her behaviour is a disgrace and yes of course shes a sociopath

that's a good point, it almosts seem that because she's now been accused of a racist attack everything else she does suddenly is excusable!

her behaviour is consistently awful and totally inexcusable....she chucks the odd quick meaningless apology then continues being verbally cruel and abusive, and scott the enabler encourages her all the way with his innane beavis and butthead laughter

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Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther (Post 5254941)

SOOO many to hate in there aren't there? :blush:

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Originally Posted by sarakss (Post 5253703)

I'm in America and can assure you that you can call a black person a disgusting Sasquatch,

No, you would not call anyone a 'disgusting' Sasquatch.

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but that means nothing compared to calling a black person a monkey, gorilla, ape, or baboon. These words have weight because of their historical association.

Do you mean "Even Americans (where it turns out African animal nick-names for blacks actually is a real overly-sensitive issue)"

Because that's what I wrote. And you responded by taking what I said, telling it BACK AT ME but 'as if' you were informing me.

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Don't act like they don't.

Like how I was acting when I told you African apes (as nick-names) actually have derogatory racial insinuations in the USA (historically). And that its a sensitive issue in the USA.

Now, since I taught you what are racially-sensitive terms in the USA I can also tell you the UK doesn't quite have that same history (the one I told you about here).
Yet, they are taking the 'PC correctness' even further. For example, insisting that the most nefarious American racial context be applied to a British girl in her culture.

Anything else you want to know? You can repeat it back to me 'as if' you thought of it first again, if you like yes?

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Originally Posted by MatthewS (Post 5253401)

Disagree. If she called him a rhino or a polar bear, I doubt we'd be having this conversation. It's controversial because of the specific animal she used, which has historically been associated with a racial slur. If someone called Beckie a whale for example, I don't think the initial reaction would be that it's racist.

Now, whether she said it with intent, knowing it was a racial, is up for debate. The people who don't like Caroline will of course say it was a racial remark, while her supporters will say it was a poor choice of words. The reality though, is that only she knows.

That's not true. I don't like Caroline and I don't think she meant the word 'gorilla' in a racially offensive context. You need to understand that a lot of people are able to not let the preference of a particular housemates bias their opinions when it comes to controversial issues, such as this one.

^^^
For sure, I agree, some people will be able to differentiate, but I'd argue just as many already had their mind made up. Only she really knows though, that's the thing.

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Originally Posted by MatthewS (Post 5255595)

^^^
For sure, I agree, some people will be able to differentiate, but I'd argue just as many already had their mind made up. Only she really knows though, that's the thing.

She could well be a racist - who knows? As I said, unless they make a public display of it, you'll never know what they say and think about people behind closed doors.

Has anyone compared BB's words to Caroline with those to Conor?
Were either or both appropriate?

Caroline isn't a racist - she is a Pisces.

Just to be clear..I, myself, would never had called Adam a Gorilla, because unlike Caroline, I know that it could be considered offensive..But lets face it, how much interaction do you think someone like her actual has with us common folk? Much less Minorities..She's just a snob from an insulated upbringing...

She meant it in a racist way otherwise she would of had an explanation for what she said. Instead she looked embarrassed and she apologised. I was shocked at her reaction.