So now you're restricting it to South African females not just female sport stars in general?

There are a lot more global female sports stars than there are disabled ones

what? yur confusing me now. obviously i'm not saying female sports stars in general. America has a ton of female sports stars. (serena williams, abby wambach, hope solo, lindsay vonn, danica patrick, gabby douglas and the rest of the fierce five gymnastics team) America has tons of female athletes.

I'm saying South Africa, because obviously South Africa doesn't even have many male sports starts, and i can't think of any south african female sports stars. are ther any? I was pointing out how he's their one superstar, and also south africa is very sexist.

Doesn't the president of South Africa own like 7 wives? that's ******ed up.

Well off topic now.

Please dont let any real facts get in the way of your ignorance.

Doesnt the president of the US only own one wife? What a poor poor fellow

The **** does that have to do with anything?

0908: Mr Nel has now finished his closing arguments. The court is taking a short break and then Mr Pistorius' lawyer, Barry Roux, will respond.

I have to say as a South African one of the strangest things about this case is no mention of a panic button.

I have lived in secure complex's (not as nice as Oscar's )and there are always several panic buttons ,especially one beside the bed.

Oscar's lawyer has told magistrate that he thought there was an intruder and then went to the bed to get gun .I find it hard to believe there was no panic button beside the bed.

That's a good point - perhaps by the time of the trial the police may have thought about it, too !

0941: The hearing has now resumed and defence lawyer Barry Roux is on his feet to present his arguments.

0949: Defence lawyer Barry Roux has been giving a legal masterclass about the difference between "dolus directis" and "dolus eventualis". In layman's terms, dolus directis is when you always intended an action - ie, the victim was the intended target - and dolus eventualis is when your action produces an unintended consequence - ie, the victim was not the intended target. Mr Roux is arguing that Mr Pistorius' case is the second category.

0959: Mr Roux has finished his arguments and the magistrate has told the courtroom that the bail decision will be delivered at 14:30 local time (12:30 GMT).

Oscar Pistorius: South Africa police under spotlight
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21543851

Andrew Harding

Africa correspondent

:idc:

1254: Magistrate Desmond Nair summarising the defence case (in detail)

1309: Magistrate Desmond Nair is now recapping the evidence of the original investigating officer, Warrant Officer Hilton Botha (in detail)

1328: Magistrate Desmond Nair has now moved on to discuss the history of bail in the Republic of South Africa (in detail)

He don't 'alf go on ..... :bored:

Now he's banging on about how bloody paragraphs and schedules (sub-section small a) ..... :shrug:

1339: The court adjourns for five minutes.

You'd think this was a trial and he was the hanging judge ..... :rolleyes:

We apologise for the delay on the bail decision - the magistrate just loves hearing the sound of his own voice ..... :sleep:

We MAY get a decision soon, but then again it could be deferred until Monday if the magistrate hasn't completed his pontification ..... :conf2:

He's been granted bail :shocked: surprised considering the charge

1424: Magistrate Desmond Nair said in view of the "totality of the evidence" he concludes Mr Pistorius should be granted bail while he awaits trial for murder.

1442: Magistrate Desmond Nair has set bail conditions - Mr Pistorius must deposit 1m rand (£73,823) in cash and guarantees, he must hand over his passport, avoid his home in Pretoria and report to a police station between 07:00 and 13:00 every Monday and Friday.

1449: Mr Pistorius is next due in court on 4 June but his trial may not be for many months. Magistrate Desmond Nair also ordered him to give up all his firearms as a condition of bail.


IMO, there will be a public outcry in SA and he will be far from safe for some time to come.

1520: The AFP news agency reports that as part of the bail conditions, magistrate Desmond Nair also said Mr Pistorius "shall refrain from using any prohibited substance and or alcohol".

Are you pleased he has got bail Omah?

Wow he's been granted bail :shocked:

pretty shocked he's been given bail

Certainly not ..... :nono:

He's a violent, and now desperate man, with a career in ruins and, whatever the charge, a certain prison sentence for murder in the offing.

There's still more to this case than has so far met the eye, e.g. why did Pistorious go for his gun and not what should have been available - a panic button (to call the guards) ..... :conf:

This case really is confusing me, why has he been given bail

ANC women's league: 'What is distressing is the reaction of some men in court who jumped up and celebrated ... as if they had won a trophy'.

Izzit cos he is rich and white ..... :wink:

1547: The Reuters news agency reports that a car believed to be carrying Oscar Pistorius has left Pretoria magistrates court, pursued by motorcycles.

Yes is this
OJ again.

Not following this case too closely but I was a bit dismayed when some friends of his on exiting the court a few days ago were laughing that it has been a good day for the defence, I felt it was totally inappropriate, I think it might even have been the day Reeva was cremated, it just looked wrong. I believe he will not be convicted of this crime, but for me at the moment his story appears to be full of discrepancies.