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the truth 05-01-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590316)
Please elaborate on how calling being gay wrong, unnatural, a choice, and handicapped is not real homophobia and this is all just a case of "crying wolf".

he didnt calll them handicapped your lying again

M X 05-01-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590217)
No what is flawed is that people need to realise the context of his comments. If he had actively got up and started saying that to people then yes that would be a reason to get annoyed etc, but he didn't he had a one on one conversation with Luisa who prompted the discussion.

Oh don't be so ridiculous.

He's in the Big Brother house, not MI5 headquarters.

There's nowhere private, his conversation was not private or 1 on 1. He is fully aware that there are millions of viewers watching him but yet he still chose to showcase his potentially offensive and ignorant opinions.

MeMyselfAndI 05-01-2014 09:56 PM

omg ty Salman, It's perfect

Benjamin 05-01-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590316)
Please elaborate on how calling being gay wrong, unnatural, a choice, and handicapped is not real homophobia and this is all just a case of "crying wolf".

I'd like you first to answer my question that I just asked you rather than conveniently ignore it .

M X 05-01-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590326)
he didnt calll them handicapped your lying again

he said it was the same thing as being handicapped...

go back and watch it :thumbs:

Vicky. 05-01-2014 09:56 PM

Stop quoting that. Theres too many of them now

the truth 05-01-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590331)
Oh don't be so ridiculous.

He's in the Big Brother house, not MI5 headquarters.

There's nowhere private, his conversation was not private or 1 on 1. He is fully aware that there are millions of viewers watching him but yet he still chose to showcase his potentially offensive and ignorant opinions.

just the same you display your anti rleigious ignorance. everyone has a right to opinions. if he gets a warning , you should too

Seanbon 05-01-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JTM45 (Post 6590233)
He didn't because he doesn't exist. That just my opinion but everything points to it being correct! :thumbs:

Sorry wrong! Jesus did exist,whether he was the son of God is open to debate,but records show such a man did exist!?! He had many followers,and was crucified,but again whether he arose from the dead is debatable!!!:xyxwave:

Black Dagger 05-01-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6590341)
Stop quoting that. Theres too many of them now

God Vicky. So homophobic x

smeagol 05-01-2014 10:01 PM

yet again its just shows what a sad world we live in now.
That's his view whether religious or not , views are everybody's right. it only becomes a problem if its hateful or the person discriminates based on beliefs/views, none of that applies with his conversation.

though some of what he said is a bit wtf lol but he does act a big brain damaged yo be fair anyway. but his view it harms no one.

M X 05-01-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590337)
I'd like you first to answer my question that I just asked you rather than conveniently ignore it .

which is basically what you've done since your first post :joker: although i must say, you've gone about 10 minutes without telling anyone to grow up so you are are progressing!

and you've basically said there's no point in fighting homophobia because everyone is entitled to spread it around without any consequence.

sampvt 05-01-2014 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6590328)
quote for new page as MMI might have missed it x

Hey those are really sexy, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

M X 05-01-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590014)
You cannot compare race and sexuality, both very different subjects that always seem to get bundled together when they are nothing alike.

Yes you can.

Race = not something you chose.
Sexuality = not something you chose.

Are you noticing a pattern here?

Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590366)
which is basically what you've done since your first post :joker: although i must say, you've gone about 10 minutes without telling anyone to grow up so you are are progressing!

and you've basically said there's no point in fighting homophobia because everyone is entitled to spread it around without any consequence.

No, I have not, so stop putting words into my posts that are not there. You have the nerve to call me ignorant and you can't even stick to what is written in front of you without twisting it to suit your argument.

M X 05-01-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590343)
just the same you display your anti rleigious ignorance. everyone has a right to opinions. if he gets a warning , you should too

Where exactly have I said anything anti-religious? Stop embarrassing yourself with replies that are ridiculous.

I'm not anti-religion. I'm anti- people using their religion in order to discriminate others.

Benjamin 05-01-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590368)
Yes you can.

Race = not something you chose.
Sexuality = not something you chose.

Are you noticing a pattern here?

Clutching at straws now are we. Carry on.

smeagol 05-01-2014 10:05 PM

bb must be on everyone is arguing lol.

chuff me dizzy 05-01-2014 10:05 PM

I do not condone WHAT he said, but I do agree he has the right to say it

Jack_ 05-01-2014 10:05 PM

I ****ing love Naomily :lovedup:

the truth 05-01-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelSpears (Post 6590338)
he said it was the same thing as being handicapped...

go back and watch it :thumbs:

I have and he didnt say it the way youve misinterpreted his words. youre wrong and therefore your entire argument is based on lies and misinterpretation. youre being profoundly disingenuous again. pathetic.

sampvt 05-01-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6590382)
I ****ing love Naomily :lovedup:

Was that Naomily Cambell the model or someone else I don't know

M X 05-01-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590372)
No, I have not, so stop putting words into my posts that are not there. You have the nerve to call me ignorant and you can't even stick to what is written in front of you without twisting it to suit your argument.

Oh please, stop trying to backtrack. You said that it's just 'crying wolf' when it obviously isn't, and that people are just too sensitive about it all. You're just ignorant and your support for homophobia is really saddening in a sense considering you are gay and yet you are feeding the the fire that burns you.

But I guess some people are so terrified of being stereotyped as a certain type of gay person that they even resort to homophobia themselves. Sad sad.

MeMyselfAndI 05-01-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6590382)
I ****ing love Naomily :lovedup:

omg same :lovedup:

M X 05-01-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6590384)
I have and he didnt say it the way youve misinterpreted his words. youre wrong and therefore your entire argument is based on lies and misinterpretation. youre being profoundly disingenuous again. pathetic.

:joker: you are wrong.

he said that gay people should get fixed in the same way that a handicapped person would go to the hospital to get fixed. (which although doesn't happen so he's stupid for that too)

i'm not sure who you are trying to prove i'm wrong too, considering we are on a big brother forum so everybody knows what was said and you denying it is just making you look foolish? :laugh:

M X 05-01-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6590374)
Clutching at straws now are we. Carry on.

Lol, once again you have no valid point so you resort to immature comments. What a surprise. :joker:


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