I prefer someone who winds me up but is not likely to punch me, personally :umm2:

Then you know nothing about mental abuse and seriously do you honestly think Danny's a thug!!

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Exactly. Marq is using mental abuse in a passive aggressive manor. Look how he was in the first three weeks with his comments to all the women. Except Helen. Who would not have taken it. And Marq knew that. He picks on the weak.

Maybe not. :shrug: Quite sure I have never suffered it in my life...

I don't see marcs behaviour as abuse. He is crude, offensive, irritating...and his 'jokes' are questionable at times. However I feel some peoples dislike of him kinda makes them exaggerate these traits.

Danny on the other hand, has shown clear aggression on a few separate occasions. Yes, maybe Marc said something to irritate him that we weren't shown, but in the face of a windup merchant, most people can control their temper.

The not so weird thing now is that Harry (the sado masochist) is now defending him. Why did she not in the beginning, when he was slating her?

Because it was too personal for her at the time?

:joker:Maybe you should read some of Dannys twitter remarks and not 'fall' for his so called good looks.

Like I said we all know a Marc, maybe at work or down the pub and yes it is easy enough to control your temper when they are only winding you up for a couple of hours but to tolerate that 24/7? Everyone has a breaking point and that guy could try the patience of a saint. He accuses other people, I.e, Nick, of wanting to win (of course you want to win, everyone in there wants to win) when he is the biggest game player in there. I hated Marc at first, then began to like him, then when Helen came in he showed his true colours. However there are still times I find myself feeling sorry for him and falling for his victim act, he is very very clever.

Harry is not a sheep and jumping on that 'safe' wagon ,she is an individual who can actually tell her side as she is living in it,so she has more insight that us,and is not scared to say it as she sees it.

We all know a Danny too,unfortunately

I know a few tbh. Some I would class as good friends.

I said a lot earlier in the series maybe this is why I don't find his 'banter' offensive.

Oh dear!! I have things in my fridge older than him!! . I am in my forties and watching this programme and reading this forum as part of my dissertation for a psychology degree. I am certainly not fooled by a pretty face some of us aren't that shallow!

Did you miss the point about the masochist. After the initial pain, they like it:laugh:

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So you'd rather get punched in the face repeatedly than get called a name? Seriously? :laugh: They are both terrible, but one is clearly worse than the other and Danny is most certainly abusive.

has danny been kicked out yet?

We can only hope as that would be sweet

You chose this forum to read as research for a dissertation? god help you

Ha ha! Yup could be a mistake!!

No one is not clearly worse than the other. I work with children that have been subjected to both physical and mental abuse and they both leave serious scars. The difference is physical abuse is easier to spot!

Same here

Yes ,their girlfriends are usually living in a safe house

Put it this way, you're at a house party, it's 5am, everyone is pissed. An argument breaks out between you and another guest. There's a knife on the table. Would you prefer that argument to be with Marc, Danny or Brian...because, for me, two of those seem to have uncontrollable tempers.

Yikes... but true.

Do you know, I think I may pick the same as your good self :whistle:

Jesus! I hope you never get put on jury duty! The bloke has lost his cool after putting up with Marc and his mind games 24/7 and suddenly he has an "uncontrollable temper".