Good god I've read this thread in it's entirety and really wish I didn't :umm2:

Jack :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Poor him.

So you've both chosen to be straight then? As in, you recognise that you have gay feelings but you're choosing to suppress them? Or is it just gay people who are choosing their sexuality, because they're psychopaths? Really, this thread is a total mess :huh:

I have read many, but this is the most scientific and the largest and most recent study to date:

http://journals.cambridge.org/action...33291714002451

Could I read your copy because I am not paying £30 for it.

You don't have to pay for the results which concluded homosexuality is innate.
There is enough info there anyway and plenty more online elsewhere which is free.

Wow

please post proof or yield

I'm actually speechless at this comment

I feel like I've lost all my brain cells.

Totally chose to have a mental breakdown in my teen years because I thought it would be a laugh to like dick

wow at this ignorance :umm2:

I posted a link a few posts up in which it clearly states homosexuality is innate. It is the results of the latest and biggest study to date.

Not conclusive though is it. It actually states in the summary that the results conflict with other studies.

Yes, earlier studies. That study is the latest and largest ever carried out and it concludes homosexuality is innate.
I read a fantastic piece on homosexuality in animals a few years ago. Most animal species have gay members too. If I can find it I'll post a link. My neighbour has a gay dog by the way.

Perhaps she could adopt a child for it.:laugh:

Even if we accept that it is innate, it still doesn't make gay couples adopting right. They can't naturally have children.

Give me a break

He stuck by that incredibly ignorant and offensive comment and he's living with the consequences, it's nobody else's fault but his own

Even if it was a choice, who gives a ****? Why can't another human being just love another human being?

:umm2: at this thread tbh.

No they can't. Which is sad and all the more reason why they should be able to adopt. Being born gay shouldn't stop anyone from having what those who aren't gay can have. It's unfair. People celebrate when a heterosexual couple have a child, when a gay couple want a child to love, they have to go through so much and get blasted for it.

And it's such a shame people think like that meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of children in foster care desperate for the love and care from a family of any kind. Gay couples are FAR more likely to adopt than straight couples. They should be encouraged not discouraged, when there are so many children out there without a home and loving family. Winton's word were truly sickening and self-righteous.

Gay couples have been around for a while but underground. Its just recently since the gay marriage thing, that established relationships have been accepted and some have not yet been indoctrinated into accepting that these gay alliances are as stable as straight marriages. I strongly believe that most gay alliances are actually proving to be stronger but I am in the minority and it takes time to educate.

..also in many cases, not so much being in denial but being of a generation when being in the closet was the safest place to be because of the lack of acceptance and 'gay' actually being illegal.../not that long ago really...

..they really do, it's a very long process..well adoption in general for any couple is and should be..it's important to asses the right parents/the right child(ren) etc but it's much more intrusive and lengthy for a homosexual couple than it is for heterosexual partnerships and also from my experience, much more so than a single parent adopting...their sexual lives are not intruded on in anything like the same way...I know a gay couple who have recently gone through the process and what they went through...

..children are all different obviously, just like we all are and some will thrive and be best suited to male/female parents, some to single parents and equally, some to homosexual parents..each parenting can have something a child needs, specific to them...and the 'matching' is mutual so the children..(obviously not babies..) choose those gay parents as well, with several meetings...but they're not even introduced in the first place, if it's felt that it's not a parenting situation that would be suitable for that child/those children, their character etc...I have to say as well, again only my own personal experience of maybe 40/50ish foster children at our school through the time that I've been there..?..a very high percentage of them were adoptable and in that sad situation because of biological heterosexual parents, who they suffered child abuse from...either one of, or both parents...

..I would say that denying a child an opportunity of having terrific parents/terrific homosexual parents because it's felt that's a family they would particularly thrive in..is more akin to 'child abuse'....or certainly not looking at a child's best interest/welfare etc...and because of a perceived idea of what a family should be/a nuclear family, type thing...families come in all shapes and sizes and can equally work or not work, but nothing to do with sexuality at all...