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Kizzy 18-04-2016 09:08 PM

Isn't it wonderful? :flutter: Step down Hunt!

Red Moon 18-04-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8618165)
Isn't it wonderful? :flutter: Step down Hunt!

We can only hope.

joeysteele 19-04-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Moon (Post 8618158)
It seems he might not have the legal right to force the contracts on the staff.

Personally I think it is the start of some kind of government U-turn on the whole Doctors contract mess the man himself help create.

Spot on and anything that now has made a u turn on this possible is great news.

As you rightly point out however, this really is/was a mess of his ow making.

the truth 19-04-2016 01:04 PM

Its a tragedy for all sides and for patients especially. Both sides are a disgrace.
clearly the weekend service is appalling. clearly the doctors deal labour did in 2004 is the main part of the problem in allowing 90% of gp's to opt out of all out of hours work, thus putting too much pressure on hospitals. clearly the service provided by some hospitals is sub standard, clearly the enormous mass of middle management, administrators and incompetent wasteful often corrupt trusts has cost the nhs billions...the eu rules limiting and making it so difficult to recuit enough medical staff outside the eu has killed us too....that's why we recruit so many 1000s of staff and pay them private sector wages
hunt has been charmless and boorish throughout. the bma are a disgrace. the all day strikes are immoral in every possible way
the cover ups under labour were appalling with the record mrsa, the 1000s of patients starved, the bullying of staff who wanted to complain, the weakening of the ombudsman, that type of kronyism is akin to communism and is every bit as dangerous as the rush to sell off the nhs

both parties are a disgrace

the nhs has to become less of a political football and less burocratic and wasteful

most life saving machines are barely used a few hours a week

arista 25-04-2016 05:07 PM

Tomorrow is the Danger Day Tuesday

A&E included in the Strike.

Hunt MP is not backing down at all.
he says the BMA are Very Political,
if true thats wrong.

I wonder how many Deaths
will go on TV News?
That will not help these Hard Working Jnr Doctors

joeysteele 25-04-2016 06:34 PM

Consultants will be covering care during the strike, are there really people who think Consultants will be unable to do that.

Since so many are worried about junior Doctors not being there for their care then maybe they should appreciate them far more and direct the blame to where it really lies, this incompetent and pathetic health secretary ad this govt.

If Hunt gets to impose this contract then there will be a great deal more fewer junior Doctors in the NHS as most will likely clear off anyway and leave for other Countries or other professions.

the truth 26-04-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 8628980)
Consultants will be covering care during the strike, are there really people who think Consultants will be unable to do that.

Since so many are worried about junior Doctors not being there for their care then maybe they should appreciate them far more and direct the blame to where it really lies, this incompetent and pathetic health secretary ad this govt.

If Hunt gets to impose this contract then there will be a great deal more fewer junior Doctors in the NHS as most will likely clear off anyway and leave for other Countries or other professions.

That is plain wrong and way too simplistic. the welsh nhs under labour is years behind England under the tories and has less funding

I am against this strike. Innocent people will suffer and possibly die. Both sides should be ashamed its come to this. This macho posturing will not move anything forward either. A huge part of the problem undiscussed is the 2004 contract that allos 90% of gp's to not work out of hours at all, evenings or weekends. Thus putting so much more pressure on hospital doctors.




Another issue in wales we seem very complacent and a little smug over this imo....the reality is, in wales our waiting times are behind England on almost all areas, in some cases a long way behind...Behind in diagnosis and in treatment and operations... from heart surgery, to cancer overall, head injuries, pneumonia, hernias. We are marginally quicker dealing with kidney transplants and we have free prescriptions, everything else we are behind. Hip operations average 3 times as long waiting as in England, the wait can be between 9 months and up to 2 years in some cases, Our ambulance waiting times are also behind.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35364644




You can also choose a hospital in England online which is a brilliant way to make the system more flexible to the needs of the patients....why on earth don't we have that in wales? why on earth aren't we even talking about it? This system looks brilliant




http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/902.aspx...CategoryID=162







We have a very rigid out of date booking system. this is the same for ambulances. I recall one ambulance driver collected me to go to hospital one day. I told him Id rung to cancel. he came back the next week I told him again id cancelled I don't need any ambulance any more. he said it was easier for the ambulance driver to turn up at the addresses rather than try and cancel it as the cancellation process was so complex?

INSANE




I fear the people running nhs wales are complacent , my little dealings with the trust left me with zero confidence in those people in charge

Kizzy 27-04-2016 06:26 PM


Vicky. 28-04-2016 05:32 PM

I expected my op to be cancelled on tuesday because of this strike but it wasn't..I actually got seen without a delay for the first time in months :laugh:

arista 28-04-2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8631798)
I expected my op to be cancelled on tuesday because of this strike but it wasn't..I actually got seen without a delay for the first time in months :laugh:



Some Good News

Well Done Vicky

Livia 29-04-2016 10:41 AM

While I support the junior doctors' refusal to accept the new contract, I don't agree with strike action ever.

On the bright side, Jeremy Hunt has the ideal name if Waterhog wants to write a poem about him.

Mystic Mock 29-04-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8630930)

Oh I love this video of Jeremy ****.


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