Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9314344)

To prevent ourselves from becoming a target we shouldn't go to their countries and try to force them to change their ways, because then they're coming over to the UK, France, or whatever country you can think of that tries to force them to change their ways and these terrorist groups bomb the **** out of the country because they are getting angry about my point above.

The best thing to do now though would be for May to enter negotiations with ISIS and hope that the same thing happens there as what happened with the IRA.

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 9314496)

Seeing as how so many people have to be kept under surveillance etc, perhaps it is time for families to take account.
Deport the whole family back to country of origin if the parents are from a foreign country, maybe it will help.
We obviously can't do it with bullets, we can't do it with negotiations, so we are only left with defending ourselves from the radicals/ terrorists.
Obviously law abiding none murdering scum are welcome.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9314144)

What is the solution? How can we possibly get ISIS around a table and talk? Most of us balk at that idea, and its hard to see how anything could be achieved even if we did, but if we don't, honestly, what is going to happen? If we don't change our strategy it will keep on and keep on and keep on happening and I, just like you, don't want to see more deaths.

I am simply saying, why are we talking like a broken record that keeps saying the same thing over and over again when this kind of thing keeps happening over and over again, without stopping to look at this seriously?

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 9314597)

how on earth havent we tightened our borders decades ago? how has europe still got all open unchecked borders across 30 odd nations? its absolute insanity.

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9313991)

By the sounds of it he was able to flit to and from Libya. Again why?

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9314195)

I'm going to be frank and some people won't like this but if we don't speak frankly, we stagnate and just go round in an endless circle. Let me just start by saying, I think a lot of these 'false flag' suggestions are bollocks. I know people can make a conspiracy out of anything. I remain open minded about the death of Princess Diana and the twin towers. I don't believe those who say they have proof that we never walked on the moon but I do believe Monroe's death was suspicious.

The day before this recent atrocity, a colleague at work suggested there would be a terrorist atrocity before June 8th. I asked why he believed this but he remained tight lipped. When this terrorist attack happened, all I could think about was this colleagues prediction. I asked him about it yesterday and he feels certain it was a government act.

Let me just say, I disagree with him. No government would stoop so low... would they?

His words opened my curiosity though and so last night, I decided to trawl through some political forums that are normally out of my league and see what members from parties other than the Tory party were talking about. It surprised me that people, were being so openly cynical about other possibilities. Was this ISIS or was it a well timed move by, not the government, but those funding the Tory party? The coffers from the middle east who are sending £hundreds of millions to the Tories, who in turn promises unprecedented government support for the fossil fuel industry.

Another thing I picked up on is, to say such things publicly is to be monsterized by the blowhard press. We're simply not allowed to talk about this and anyone who dares to pass comment, will be jumped upon and an apology demanded.

Why?
why can't we talk about these possibilities?

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9314624)

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/ex-uki...mbers-6658334/

Ex-Ukip MEP calls suggests the death penalty for suicide bombers :think:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9314621)

I think that is a vile conspiracy theory that shouldn't even be given breath time and throwing it around is little more than enabling terrorists. It's one thing to dislike a different branch of politics but quite another form of madness to accuse them of genocide to win an election.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9314621)

I think that is a vile conspiracy theory that shouldn't even be given breath time and throwing it around is little more than enabling terrorists. It's one thing to dislike a different branch of politics but quite another form of madness to accuse them of genocide to win an election.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9314706)

I'm not sure if May was involved as there is no evidence to suggest that she was, but is it a coincidence that the terrorist attack happened not long after the Tories manifesto was released and that the lead was starting to get slimmer and slimmer? Maybe or maybe not.

Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 9314722)

this

not one person in government, or funding the government, or anyone with any interest in the government was involved in this. it was the usual terrorist scum, and the only relation to the upcoming election could be if they wanted to disrupt it in any way by timing the attack just before it.

if anything i think it's kind of disrespectful to the victims to be turning this into a ridiculous political conspiracy theory.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9314729)

Yes a complete coincidence. Don't be ridiculous and stop disrespecting the dead.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9314735)

How is it ridiculous and disrespecting the dead for pointing out that there could be more to it?:conf:

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9314740)

If you think about it, you'll get there eventually.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9314732)

BIB, tbf I'd like to think that people would be suspicious at any party that was losing their lead in the Election and then a terrorist attack happened that killed loads of children happened not long afterwards that 99.99% ensures their victory at the Election as people don't want change in a crisis like this.

May is very likely to be innocent tbf, but it's always good to question and look at the convenient timing of the attack.

Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 9314747)

we are not living in 1930s soviet russia, we do not assassinate people before elections to get our own way.

Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 9314747)

we are not living in 1930s soviet russia, we do not assassinate people before elections to get our own way.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9314752)

Not to mention all the people in the know who would have to be kept quiet and how you'd pay someone to kill themselves. It's the most ridiculous and disrespectful thing I've heard in days I don't know what's wrong with people to say such a thing. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9314706)

I'm not sure if May was involved as there is no evidence to suggest that she was, but is it a coincidence that the terrorist attack happened not long after the Tories manifesto was released and that the lead was starting to get slimmer and slimmer? Maybe or maybe not.