...I tend to agree with Jack and what he’s said ..(..great to see you posting, Jack..:love:..)..’people respond to how they’re treated’ is very true...and that’s exactly what happened..:laugh:...Andrew responded to Ann questioning his mum’s ‘pride’ through any of his behaviour in the house and that is absolutely not there for her to question..it crossed a boundary for more ‘unacceptable’ than any terminology Andrew may have used in response...not that he maybe held her in much respect anyway, but with what she said it’s easy to see why he felt she merited no respect at all...and so yeah, he responded in the name calling...maybe not the best response, I agree..but at least that response was directed at and only ‘judging’ Ann...which is not what she did, she had assumed the speaking for his family or a family member, someone he obviously loves and whose opinion he would hold very dear...even if she had been a mother herself and had said...oh I’m just saying to try to say how that would make me feel..?....that would still be wrong and not for her to say what any other mum would find pride in or ‘shame’ in, in the way she did with Andrew...it’s kind of really one of the lowest of the lows...and for me, much worse behaviour than his reaction...I mean, no matter how much Ann may have annoyed in the house through anything she’s said or any of her actions etc...whatever the age or any other factor, no one in the house has ever said to her...oh, your friends would be ashamed of you or not very proud of you, so think on...the annoyance/disapproval Ann felt toward Andrew should have only ever been directed at Andrew and no mention of his family should have ever been...with the ‘older’ and ‘younger’ thing...Yeah Andrew’s reaction may have been more explosive/not that cool, calm, collected Ann..:laugh:...but what Ann said in her cruel assumption of judgement from his mum...showed really that ‘age’ itself and only that alone is not a factor in earning respect...

I always think of this clip when I see the word Homophobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c

Do you want to be friends

more important is why is she getting backed for it when there isn't a positive to it cos she s not encouraging conflict cos she holds people back most people daren t be open and show themselves open up to provide entertainment for show cos they daren t stand up against the bigot.

Its not just her bigotry either she s got a history of turning her head away from girls being abused in Rotherham when she was Shadow Home Secretary, of turning her Head away from Tory and Establishment Child Abusers and for not saying anything standing up to Tories deliberately attacking the genuinely disabled and mentally ill with them only not officially protecting the Mental Health department.

There's a problem with the clip, its not played .

...hopefully that might be it, GoldHeart...

OMG!! :joker: , best twist at the end ! . Made the stereotype idiot look embarrassing :hee: .

Great and accurate post poppsywoppy I don't know why people think it makes them look tough swearing like a trooper to get their point across,it just shows a lack of education and Andrew is definately uneducated

Thank you, yes that is it.
I couldn't get it to load properly.

Are people still calling Ann a homophobe lmaoooo

Don't 100% agree with this ammi. She didnt actually shame they woukd feel ashamed, she just said remember they are watching, it was andrew who later said Ann's family would and should feel ashamed of her. I agree however that family members should not be brought up, but Andrew's reaction was beyond extreme

...yeah Annie...that’s why I put ashamed in single quotations ..:laugh:..because it’s not what Ann actually said, more what she was inferring...that she felt his behaviour required a reminder to consider his family...

That's absolutely right, she just said they were watching. Andrew, as always went a step further, too far.

And Ann was right really as his mum's face looked pretty embarrassed during his interview last night when they showed the clips. Even Andrew looked embarrassed and immediately apologised.

Yes

Labelling someone is not an argument.

Some people don't have arguments: all they have are labels

The same old cheap, cliched, over-used labels - again and again.

Does get boring

It's been explained dozens of times.

Putting your fingers in your ears and ignoring the argument doesn't make it disappear.

There were some excellent arguments behind that given label.

Spot on.
He never gave his family a thought when he was swearing and being nasty, maybe if he had taken on Ann’s words as a bit of advice then he wouldn’t have been booted out.
Glad he was mind.

If Andrews family have no problem about his behaviour with Shane that’s all well and good but I suspect the names he called Ann will have embarrassed them. A pity Andrew did not consider his family more. There are times when Andrew becomes a person only a mother could love. It might not do Andrew any harm to become slightly less bombastic and opinionated in general. Ann advising him to be more considerate of his family is not a homophobic retort. It is good solid advice that he might have done well to consider. She did not mention shame...he did!

Nobody has explaind how she has a phobia when she doesn't fear gay people.

I'm all ears

Maybe you need to study the English language again instead of continuing to repeat that line as though it is at all funny?

Homophobia is a dislike or prejudice against homosexuals.

The suffix of phobia most closely translates to 'an aversion to'. Nobody thinks she jumps on the table stomping her feet yelling help for straight people to safely escort her out of the area everytime she sees a gay person.

I cant tell if youre being serious or not, but your take on the word would explain the confusion that has been going on with the word recently. Hmm.

Deadly serious, I believe phobia is the wrong word to use.

No confusion. They're just continuing to make a mockery out of serious topics they have no relation to.

Ann is not prejudice against homosexuals

Shane is doing more harm to the lgbt community than Ann is

People will think relationships like Andrews and Shane’s are always fake and for attention

Also he thinks gender is a spectrum wtf

No. Voting against equality isn't prejudiced. :/

Also Andrew and Shane are not in a relationship.