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Withano 13-07-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 10086083)
The word cis was made up as a terminology by a biologist in 1996. Get over it and grow a clue. I've been a woman longer than that and my mother and grandmother before me.

Wrong. Lol. Cis is an ancient latin word, Jaxie.

Edit: you are literally still a woman. Nobody has ever said you was not. It's just that you are also a ciswoman as opposed to a transwoman. The sharp majority of people on Earth is either cis or trans. Getting angry over a fact of life is futile af

Withano 13-07-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086180)
Typical - Transwomen don't want to be called by a certain name ie man but they are quite happy to force a certain name ie cis onto women. Biggest load of hypocrites that every walked this earth.

You are no better by calling women on here cis women when they have made it perfectly clear they reject that name. It isn't a real name and neither you or anyone else can force it on another person who rejects it unless you are just as big a hypocrite.

It doesn't really matter though? You can say you don't want to be called human or brown-haired, and people can respect that if they remember the odd request, but it wouldn't stop it being true.

I am a cismale whether I like it or not, you are a cis woman whether you like it r not.

If you would rather be called woman then that's fine but it doesn't explain what kind of woman you are. It will not tell people whether you was born male or female. There are other words used to describe that.

Withano 13-07-2018 02:43 PM

This really is just anger over dictionary-defined words and people are arguing as if anybody in the thread can help that lol.

Brillopad 13-07-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10086432)
It doesn't really matter though? You can say you don't want to be called human or brown-haired, and people can respect that if they remember the odd request, but it wouldn't stop it being true.

I am a cismale whether I like it or not, you are a cis woman whether you like it r not.

If you would rather be called woman then that's fine but it doesn't explain what kind of woman you are. It will not tell people whether you was born male or female. There are other words used to describe that.

As the word didn't even exist when I was born I am not a 'cis' woman and neither is anyone else who rejects it. All a load of nonsense dreamt up by people with an agenda they are trying to force on the rest of the population. Keep trying but I for one am not having a barr of it as they say!

Beso 13-07-2018 03:05 PM

All woman or all man should be used when describing people who are just that

Withano 13-07-2018 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086463)
As the word didn't even exist when I was born I am not a 'cis' woman and neither is anyone else who rejects it. All a load of nonsense dreamt up by people with an agenda they are trying to force on the rest of the population. Keep trying but I for one am not having a barr of it as they say!

I’m older than the word too, doesn’t automatically disqualify it from being an accurate way to describe me, obviously. That isn’t how the dictionary works.

Oliver_W 13-07-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10086423)
Nobody is putting the word cis in a sentence unless it is needed, which is rare.

Can you think of an instance when it would be needed?

Withano 13-07-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10086477)
Can you think of an instance when it would be needed?

When specifically needing to differentiate between transpeople and cispeople for the sake of making conversation easier is the only single example I can think of right now.

Oliver_W 13-07-2018 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10086478)
When specifically needing to differentiate between transpeople and cispeople for the sake of making conversation easier is the only single example I can think of right now.

In most cases, wouldn't it be obvious from context?
* Men - please wear a suit
* Men - we have a deal on breast removal
* Men - please check your testicles
Surely it's obvious which one of these is for biological men, which is for transmen[*], and which is for both?


[*]
Spoiler:

I know some biological guys have manboobs, but I just shat out some random examples, blehh

Withano 13-07-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10086490)
In most cases, wouldn't it be obvious from context?
* Men - please wear a suit
* Men - we have a deal on breast removal
* Men - please check your testicles
Surely it's obvious which one of these is for biological men, which is for transmen[*], and which is for both?


[*]
Spoiler:

I know some biological guys have manboobs, but I just shat out some random examples, blehh

Obviously, that is far more confusing than using the words cismen and transmen instead of men


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