![]() |
Hmmm. Scotland isn't losing its culture... N.Ireland isn't losing its culture... if England is losing it's culture, frankly it's because England never had a particularly strong cultural heritage in the first place.
Or rather, it did, but it was rooted in the British Empire, the end of which had nowt to do with immigration (other than the fact that it left half the world dirt poor and keen to migrate). Now before the bleating starts; I know that Scotland played a large role in the British Empire. But Scotland also has a strong cultural identity and history aside from that that England just doesn't have. There are some strong regional identities but those aren't really the same thing. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
....hmmmm it is hard to fathom what the British culture is that we’re apparently losing...is it fish and chip suppers on a Friday night..?...but we haven’t lost that, we can still have fish and chips if we want to and if we’re lucky enough to be able to afford it because that culture comes with a very high price tag...is British culture going to the cinema and watching a movie with our families..?...but we haven’t lost that either, we can still do that but again...only if it’s affordable to us...but migrants haven’t been responsible for the high cost of things...is it going going out for a family picnic, is that what the culture that is so British...having a pub lunch on a Sunday....?...I’m just kind of wondering which boxes of ‘ ritish culture’ are not being ticked because of the ‘harm’ of migrants...it’s not an easy one to find the answers for...maybe it’s because the migrants took all of our NHS away...no it can’t be that because the governments through time have caused that to happen by not keeping investment in line with growing population...or maybe that was just impossible to do...?...maybe it’s because the migrants took our benefits..no again, it can’t be that because it’s goverment purse strings that is the main factor there...the pesky governments, not the pesky migrants...anyway I’ll carry on giving thought to what it is the migrants have harmed with the apparent loss of our culture...and when I get that eureka moment...I’ll be on those darn migrants, how very dare they cos I’m not having it, TS..:fist:...(...help me though in finding out where the harm came, TS ...because I’m struggling a bit on my own...)... |
Quote:
Some insist that our more forward thinking way of life will rub off on people from these cultures with time rather than the other way round but if the demographics of cultures in this country change significantly that is unlikely to be the case. Religious ideology runs deep and the optimism of some that once people experience more freedoms their views will change is more optimistic than realistic. Personally I find it quite offensive when those defending mass immigration attack and insult British culture and use it as a reason why we shouldn’t care about things such as culture as ours apparently is so invisible and unimportant we wouldn’t be losing anything of any value anyway - another big fat straw man. Many, many Brits love their culture and way of life and won’t just hand over the reigns to suit the agendas of others. |
Quote:
And there's some who are harmless who just come over to the UK and they work hard , not all of them are lazy or illegally here with criminal dodgy pasts with the intent to do more damage. |
Personally I don't think it is a loss of culture so much as a loss of diversity and communities, when I moved to the area I live in 20 years ago there as a great mix of people, of all nationalities and creeds, now it is more or less an Asian area, and where my sons went to school they were spot the white on their class photos :laugh: it doesn't bother me as I wasn't born here but I can understand that people who were born and bred in an area like this and have had family homes for generations are gradually they have become a minority in the area of their birth, the other issue is even the second and third generation Indian/Pakastanis speak their own language to each other, not English. My neighbours are all very nice but there is a barrier and a point beyond which I would never be taken into their circle, that is my experience anyway.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Immigration is a good thing,Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
Take what we need.Everything in moderation |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
...even second/third generations etc...still have family connections in their country of birth...so speaking and understanding their own country language is very important...English is something they will understand and speak as well and probably as a first language as the generations go on...but using their country language within the family etc is also important...it’s keeping who someone is through their ancestry and family connections...
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Just to add some other things in to the mix. Control of immigration doesnt need to be some big nasty thing. It could mean that nearly everyone that wants to come in is allowed, its just a mechanism to make sure that everything still runs smoothly.
From a political stand point .... it's also perfectly feasible for 1 government to open the flood gates as it were and another to close them. The point being that in the EU as it stands, we as a sovereign nation are not allowed that level of control, whether we need it or not. That is the fundamental issue. With regard to integration. Where I grew up in Scotland, we have had loads of immigrants from poland, pakistan and china. While they have still managed to retain some of their cultural identity, my experience is that the majority are now proud to be scottish too. In England, that has not been my experience so much. So what has caused that. Is it an unwillingness to integrate or less than welcoming country willing to accept immigrants. My feeling is that it's a bit of both |
Quote:
|
Isn't immigration from outside of the EU controlled anyway?
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
You can't erase culture. It's complete hysteria to think it can be or that it is.
It seems to literally come down to 'There are more brown faces around and I feel threatened by that.' |
All times are GMT. The time now is 02:32 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by
Advanced User Tagging (Pro) -
vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.