I could use the same language and phrasing, because the mainstream media is proven to be fake, but I don't support anybody killing people.

Proven fake how? Expand upon that view point.

Shall we just do this year?

The 2 and a half year Russian stuff, all turned out fake.
The Covington kids was false
The mainstream ran with the Jessie Smollett interpretation of events

If we go back further. There's the hands up don't shoot.

Lazy journalism producing fake news.

Trump is a Nazi

Fake news

Trump is torturing kids at the border

Fake news!

And that's all I have to say on the matter.

I have nothing more to say on this thread.

So anybody who replies to me is obviously trolling.

John Sopal last night on the BBC used a malicious quote about what Trump said about the "squad" he said "donald trump0 told these 4 women to go back to where they came from"

that wasnt the quote al all or the sentiment (he said go back and then report back to the USA)- totally different but as he is a nasty little trump hater he broadcast it and it was aired

and that is the BBC

vile

The sad thing is a case could be made for many conservative policies by a compassionate and measured politician. Trump is not it. He is an insecure, malicious, vain and shallow person. He is doing conservatives no favour, the opposite in fact.

Yeah, you've got this all wrong. You can't call something fake simply because YOU don't possess all the facts or lack a basic understanding of them.

Nothing about the Russian interference in the election was fake, it's honestly worrying that you believe that despite all the evidence out there. There was interference, this is an undeniable fact, Alf.

'The Covington kids are false' What does this even mean? Are you saying they don't exist? Are they figments of someone's imaginations?

The media posted what was believed to be the facts at the time of the Jussie Smollet case and they carried on reporting the case as it developed. Your complaints about it make no sense since they reported the accusation as false. You're essentially complaining about the media reporting this case?

Honestly Alf, it's difficult to make sense of what you are saying because your argument is basically whatever helps Trump look better and discrediting anything that reveals truths about him you don't like by using illogical mind gymnastics to try to justify why Trump is the sole teller of truth in the world.

It's all very cult-y.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

Just on the Jussie Smollett one Dezzy, you say the media posted what the believed to be the facts. Why didn't they wait for the facts? It's not even that big of a story, attacks happen in Chicago all the time.

The reason was to send out anti-Trump propaganda.

Even little old me, sat at home in Hull, immediately was suspicious of the story, because it didn't make sense. And top mainstream journalists couldn't work that out? Or could they, but they were happy to lie.

Yes, because the "go back to where you came from" trope hasn't been used for generations to insult and degrade minorities, it's merely an invitation to help the white people govern more effectively.

We're different generations, and even I remember seeing "****'s go home" or "******* out" written on motorway flyovers etc.

Who amongst us doesn't remember the famous chant of "send her back, send her back, send her back, then report back to the USA" at his rallies?

The newspaper headlines on 9/12:

Something happened in New York.

Trump just called this Domestic Terrorism
and for this 21 year old
a Fast Death Penalty is now on route.


[He called this weekend's attacks in Texas and Ohio "barbaric", adding they were "crimes against all humanity".]

Its now 21 dead , sadly.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-bla...tings-11778094

Don't believe a word he says

Of Course.


But today he changed his thoughts

Bc something happened. Soon he will be back to hate mongering

in fairness to Trump, he has announced some measures, things start changing from small beginnings

He didn't, because not long after that speech he was back pushing immigration reform as the lesson from the weekend. So a white nationalist murders loads of innocent brown people, and the lesson isn't that he needs to sort himself out, it's that they need to stop brown people coming in so white dudes don't have to massacre them.

He holds a political view, why should he change that view when some idiot goes shooting?

I'm with you on this; his dad was in the KKK, and he's a vile racist and shows it whenever possible, but I was replying to Arista who said he changed his views today.

Edit: my bad, "changed his thoughts"

America will be a minority white country before long.
Here's hoping he's the last racist elected to be president

The shooter: is openly calling himself a leftist, has his pronouns in his twitter bio, supports Elizabeth Warren.

Certain people: yeah but it's still Trump's fault.

Yes he supported Warren

Trump insisted that a baby who was left an orphan by the shootings be brought to the hospital for a picture. Does anyone else find this completely tasteless?