Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10881903)

No Dezzy you are not getting it. No one on here has disagreed with the officers suspension. At no point have I made him out to be a victim..its not my fault that you interpret my views wrongly. You are incapable of discussion. Next time we have a knifeman on the loose who actually stabs and kills someone lets just hope a policeman doesnt have to second think how to reprimand him without showing any aggression at the expense of endangering the public further.

Why is it you and your crew cant respond to debate without making it personal.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881942)

Put me in the same position on the floor with the cuffs on at the front and I would seriously hurt you if you was a copper.

You lot have never been in a fight in your life.

When adrenaline kick in it gives people incredible strength that’s why you sometimes see 5 police trying to hold one guy.

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10881725)

Lol the way you care more about the fact you think he was "aggressive" (when he wasn't anyway) says a lot. I doubt you'd be saying the same thing if he had used that knife on one of your family members though :hee:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10882007)

Well said

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10881833)

Missed the point AGAIN...:pat:


IF this man had stabbed and killed someone or several people this police officer would NOT be suspended for restraining him in an aggressive way ?....he would be a ****ing hero....

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10881854)

Why would he be carrying a knife if the intent was not to harm/kill somebody, or at the very least scare people with it to use to his advantage?

I'm genuinely shocked that people are trying to defend him here. Actually... I'm not. :facepalm:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10881942)

Put me in the same position on the floor with the cuffs on at the front and I would seriously hurt you if you was a copper.

You lot have never been in a fight in your life.

When adrenaline kick in it gives people incredible strength that’s why you sometimes see 5 police trying to hold one guy.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10881891)

All this 'well it didn't happen, he didn't do this or that' nonsense. Surely prevention is the best way to go about it, by using force if necessary. Or are we in an age where we allow someone to potentially kill, rather than restrain, at the risk of offending some members of the public (whilst trying to protect and serve them). The man was carrying a knife, was resisting arrest, was violent, he was obviously dangerous and threat to the public. Should he have had his head knelt on when cuffed, nope, but in the heat of the moment, it can't be easy restraining a violent, armed criminal.

More training is needed, with increasing knife crime and violence, and with so much public unrest, these situations will arise more and more.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882042)

Who's defended him?

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882038)

I think it's you who is not getting it.

IF this man had stabbed and killed anyone he would not be getting arrested by this officer.

Think before posting. 'IF' is not a valid discussion of what ACTUALLY took place. So, "this would be ok if this man was a murderer", well, he's not a murderer so it has **** all to do with the discussion.

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10882068)

People appear to not actually care that he had a knife because he "didn't use it" lol.

When the only reason he didn't was because of those police officers, most likely if not that particular day, very possibly in the future.

He was a danger to the public and all people care about is a policeman trying to stop him using a minor amount of force.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10882157)

It’s a broadened discussion....looking at the bigger picture...all part of the topic Marsh..:laugh:

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10882068)

People appear to not actually care that he had a knife because he "didn't use it" lol.

When the only reason he didn't was because of those police officers, most likely if not that particular day, very possibly in the future.

He was a danger to the public and all people care about is a policeman trying to stop him using a minor amount of force.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882202)

Not really. If this man was a murderer it would be an entirely different situation.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10882205)

You're not getting what people are saying, we're not saying he is/was a murderer. We're saying he had the potential to be one, be it he was carrying a deadly weapon. The intent was/could have been there. He was treated like this for stealing a can of coke, but the fact that he was involved in a violent crime, and carrying a knife.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882206)

I don't recall commenting on what you said.

The police officer's actions were not appropriate, hence his suspension.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10882210)

Which means what exactly? That i have no right to comment on what you post, on an open forum?

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882213)

Nope. It means that your response of "That's not what we're saying" makes no sense since none of what I said was aimed at your views.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882204)

Nobody has said any of this. They've said him having a knife doesn't change the fact the police officer did not follow procedure.

I don't think it needs pointing out that it is not a defence of the criminal being arrested and what they were arrested for.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10882216)

Myself and few others are saying the same thing, your post went against what i was saying, being on an open forum i added my opinion to what you was saying. Makes perfect sense actually, it's how forums and debates work.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882218)

It really didn't.
You're arguing a point I didn't address. Probably for the sake of it as you have some major issue with me. Go off.

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10882217)

Okay but what about the MAIN POINT of the fact he was carrying a knife? Seems like that is being ignored and all of this is just yet another way for people to trash the police.

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10882222)

Lol, when was the last time i even quoted you in a thread? You're not that important Marsh.

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10882217)

Okay but what about the MAIN POINT of the fact he was carrying a knife? Seems like that is being ignored and all of this is just yet another way for people to trash the police.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10882224)

I'm not, no. You make me feel it though. :hee: