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Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10891195)
Racism, discrimination in any form whatsoever should have no place in these modern times

i strive for more equality in the world, where everyone respects each other regardless of colour, religion, class, disability

can you tell us more about the striving aspect

what are you doing to achieve this?

Tom4784 04-08-2020 01:04 PM

It's ignorance beyond compare and shows a complete lack of empathy to act like white privilege doesn't exist and it's hilariously privileged in itself to deny that your own privilege exists.

Fact, being born white in most places in the west will lead to an easier life than a non-white person in the same situation. Especially in America. You can deny it, you can pretend otherwise but delusion doesn't change the facts.

Nicky91 04-08-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10891197)
can you tell us more about the striving aspect

what are you doing to achieve this?

i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality

Elliot 04-08-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 10890984)
Tell me a time, post a link, when 'white privilege' helped a lower/working class white person.

It's a lot more about class, a lot more!

Yes I kind of agree, it is a lot lot lot about class. You said it yourself, 70% of the people you grew up with were black. Black people are disproportionally affected by class struggles and poverty. That isn’t to say that white people arent, economical class as an axis of oppression can affect anyone and it’s valid to discuss it, but simply bringing up class struggle to shut down discussion about racism doesn’t seem very fair. I’m empathetic to the fact that you grew up as someone who was poor and it was very ****ing hard, so why can’t you be empathetic towards people who deal with racism? Why do you feel the need to try and shut down or undermine these discussions?

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10891201)
i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality

How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.

Anne Frank

Tom4784 04-08-2020 01:20 PM

The whole 'and what are you doing' argument is truly weak cop out way of devaluing someone's views without putting the effort in to form a cohesive counter argument.

What people do or don't do is irrelevant to the conversation and to use that line to try to shut down opinions just shows a complete lack of wit and intellect from those that rely on such lines in arguments.

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2020 01:22 PM

You be the change you want to see in the world

Brother Leon 04-08-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10891208)
You be the change you want to see in the world

Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?

bots 04-08-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10891228)
Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?

which we have a democratic right to do if we so wish

Kizzy 04-08-2020 02:58 PM

How long do you have to have lived somewhere to be classed as indigenous?... I hear arguments in support of ' indigenous' people's. Is there a sliding scale of people afforded more rights based on their traceable heritage?

Kizzy 04-08-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10891230)
which we have a democratic right to do if we so wish

No you don't ... you have no rights to interfere with anyone's right to protest.

You can sit in your prius and winge like your atypical mail reading gammon or karen. But you have no right to prohibit any other citizen excersising their real democratic right.

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10891228)
Yeah. And when we peacefully march in the streets, you will tell us how we are scaring you and dividing the nation, right?

who is "we" and "you"?

bots 04-08-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10891234)
No you don't ... you have no rights to interfere with anyone's right to protest.

You can sit in your prius and winge like your atypical mail reading gammon or karen. But you have no right to prohibit any other citizen excersising their real democratic right.

as usual you are talking rubbish. It is my democratic right to raise concerns that I may have. Maybe it doesn't fit into your authoritarian ideal, but too bad

Liam- 04-08-2020 04:01 PM

White people will always find an excuse to look down on black people, whenever they speak up about the racism they face, they’re told to turn the other cheek, whenever they talk about the injustices they face they’re told to do as their told and get on with it, they’re dictated to about how they can protest, they protest peacefully and they’re called dividers, there will never be a situation good enough for white people to feel comfortable with black people asserting themselves and their rights and it’s a damn shame

joeysteele 04-08-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10891201)
i can't do anything on my own with all honesty


but i can have dreams of a better world someday with more equality

You can though Nicky and you are.

With what you support and say you support.
You are making your contribution.

Not everyone can be high profile, even by your sharing of your knowledge, experiences and your views on things on here.
You are reaching others.

Never worry about teaching those who'd not be interested in your view or thinking.
If you can even just help to have one other person to re think their positions on issues.

Your striving and your hope for a better World, may then have someone else thinking like you on any said issue.

Liam- 04-08-2020 04:05 PM

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2020 04:39 PM

1 Corinthians 4:7

For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

Oliver_W 04-08-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10891247)
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.

Liam- 04-08-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10891261)
You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.

:joker:

Kizzy 04-08-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10891236)
as usual you are talking rubbish. It is my democratic right to raise concerns that I may have. Maybe it doesn't fit into your authoritarian ideal, but too bad

Lol.. you think it's your democratic right to chelp.

Tom4784 04-08-2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10891245)
White people will always find an excuse to look down on black people, whenever they speak up about the racism they face, they’re told to turn the other cheek, whenever they talk about the injustices they face they’re told to do as their told and get on with it, they’re dictated to about how they can protest, they protest peacefully and they’re called dividers, there will never be a situation good enough for white people to feel comfortable with black people asserting themselves and their rights and it’s a damn shame

Nobody ever got equality by asking for it.

Tom4784 04-08-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10891261)
You're right there - we do live in an age of equality, but some people still carp on about how "oppressed" they are.

It's like you enjoy swinging and missing the point.

Ammi 05-08-2020 04:59 AM


Marsh. 05-08-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10891204)
Yes I kind of agree, it is a lot lot lot about class. You said it yourself, 70% of the people you grew up with were black. Black people are disproportionally affected by class struggles and poverty. That isn’t to say that white people arent, economical class as an axis of oppression can affect anyone and it’s valid to discuss it, but simply bringing up class struggle to shut down discussion about racism doesn’t seem very fair. I’m empathetic to the fact that you grew up as someone who was poor and it was very ****ing hard, so why can’t you be empathetic towards people who deal with racism? Why do you feel the need to try and shut down or undermine these discussions?

Spot on.
It screams of wanting to victimise yourself and being too arrogant to believe other people have had it harder than you.

Cherie 05-08-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10891385)

:love:


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