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The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 06:16 PM

glib 18-03-2022 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147256)
Sooooo if P&O are losing £1 million per day how on Earth does sacking 800 people then replacing them with cheaper workers going to help matters ??

Even if each new worker accepts £50 per day less ( unlikely) that only saves £40,000 per day .. especially if they are going to have to shell out thousands in severance payments


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Saves them £120k a day

glib 18-03-2022 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11147163)
Well what a surprise...

Sources at the DfT said it was made aware of the impending mass sackings and suspension of ferry services on Wednesday night.

Boris Johnson’s official spokesperson had said on Thursday: “We weren’t given any notice to this.”

He confirmed on Friday that senior officials at the DfT had first been informed about the firm’s plan on Wednesday evening but had kept the information within a small group, because of concerns about commercial sensitivity.

The spokesperson said ministers were investigating whether P&O Ferries broke the law, describing the firm’s behaviour as “extreme”.

“We expect companies to treat their employees fairly. It is only in extreme circumstances that employers need to make extreme decisions to secure the future of their businesses if all other avenues have failed, including negotiations between employer and employees.

“We don’t believe this was the case for P&O staff,” he said, adding: “We are looking into this very carefully



https://www.theguardian.com/business...ing-says-union
Well Kizzy if you didn’t know Boris doesn’t work in the Department for Transport anymore

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2022 06:22 PM
are Ferries viable in today's market?

apart from say in Scotland to serve Islands?

Beso 18-03-2022 06:30 PM
Maybe we need their fleet of ships for something else.

user104658 18-03-2022 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11147277)

apart from say in Scotland to serve Islands?
Those aren't viable either, they're 1) already subsidised, 2) ancient and 3) constantly having maintenance issues.

Source: My sister lives on an island.

Zizu 18-03-2022 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by glib (Post 11147274)
Saves them £120k a day

How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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glib 18-03-2022 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147305)
How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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You have calculated someone on £2 an hour will save the company £40k a day

Assuming all the 800 got sacked were earning a min of £8 an hour

Thats x4 = £160k - 40k = £120k

Kizzy 18-03-2022 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11147255)
So who had "slave ships" on their dystopian apocalypse bingo?
Erm I said Brexit was a way to rid the UK of workers rights in 2016 does that count?

Crimson Dynamo 18-03-2022 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 11147307)
Erm I said Brexit was a way to rid the UK of workers rights in 2016 does that count?
no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

Kizzy 18-03-2022 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by glib (Post 11147275)
Well Kizzy if you didn’t know Boris doesn’t work in the Department for Transport anymore
Who said he did?... the Dft knew that's bad enough.

Kizzy 18-03-2022 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11147308)
no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast
It was an accurate prediction on the direction of post Brexit policy under a conservative government.

Not made as anything other than a suggestion based on my personal observations on what may and may not be affected if a yes vote was the outcome of the referendum.

It was not influenced by or expressed by any Labour MP at the time. Your accusations are groundless.

user104658 18-03-2022 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11147308)
no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast
I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all... :think:

bots 18-03-2022 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11147322)
I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all... :think:
employment law was never the same throughout europe. I worked for a dutch based company at one time and when they reduced staff, the majority of staff went from the uk because it was almost imposible to dump staff in holland or france. Brexit hasn't helped because rights can deviate even further now, but employers have always been favoured in the uk over employees

arista 18-03-2022 09:44 PM
https://livecenterimagesnorth.azuree...ervice-worker&

arista 19-03-2022 08:36 AM
Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




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Cherie 19-03-2022 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147305)
How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

Vanessa 19-03-2022 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147398)
Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




Sign Of The Times
Disgraceful!

Vanessa 19-03-2022 09:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147400)
Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity
Surely this is against the law?:shocked:

arista 19-03-2022 09:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147406)
Disgraceful!

Yes Contract to Free trade Ports
are already on going

DP World Logistics, Dubai
have power of their Government.

Zizu 19-03-2022 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147400)
Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

What about their replacements. ?


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Zizu 19-03-2022 09:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147398)
Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




Sign Of The Times

Well if we ( the government) have pumped billions into P&O over the Covid period then they must be made to either reinstate all the workers plus compensate them all as well ! Alternatively seize control of all the company assets


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glib 19-03-2022 09:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147408)
Surely this is against the law?:shocked:
Well so is their £2 wage but if they’re not working on the mainland are the laws applicable

bots 19-03-2022 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147416)
Well if we ( the government) have pumped billions into P&O over the Covid period then they must be made to either reinstate all the workers plus compensate them all as well ! Alternatively seize control of all the company assets


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BA did exactly the same with no consequence

Zizu 19-03-2022 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147418)
BA did exactly the same with no consequence

That’s simply disgraceful


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