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arista 01-12-2022 10:00 AM


bots 01-12-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11235175)
Not enough room to fit in the Full title

but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black

arista 01-12-2022 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11235177)
but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black

I have modified it

Godmother to Prince William resigns, after asking Black Lady what country she's from

Oliver_W 01-12-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11235135)
To be fair, she phased the question totally wrong.

The lady was wearing 'traditional dress' I believe. All the Queen's dogsbody had to say was 'which country is that traditional dress from?'

But of course even that, an appropriate question, could be thought of as 'racist. :rolleyes:

I do believe the woman who complained was deliberately being awkward. Why wear 'traditional dress' if you want to dissociate yourself from it?

No.

People can wear what they like without having to explain themselves. That lady could wear clothing which originates from any culture, and it wouldn't give people the right to question her.

Oliver_W 01-12-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11235171)
Familiar response on here. She's over reacting, shes lying, we only have on e side of the story.

Noted that only a few are saying that Lady whatever shouildnt have interrogated her. Familiar sad response. :sad:

What is the correct response?

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11235179)
I have modified it

Black godmother to Prince William, Resigns : after being insulted by Royal staff

:joker:

the lady who resigned is a white English lady who worked for the Queen Consort

the women making all the fuss is a Black woman who works at some charity in Hackney

Oliver_W 01-12-2022 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11235179)
I have modified it

Black godmother to Prince William, Resigns : after being insulted by Royal staff

The godmother still isn't black though.

Did you fully understand the story?

joeysteele 01-12-2022 10:21 AM

How about.

Royal aide quits after alleged racism row looms.

arista 01-12-2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11235185)
How about.

Royal aide quits after alleged racism row looms.


Done it

Godmother to Prince William resigns after asking Black Lady what country she's from

arista 01-12-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11235184)
The godmother still isn't black though.

Did you fully understand the story?


Yes Typed it in
wrong

Now Corrected

arista 01-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11235177)
but the title is plain wrong, for example, the godmother was not black


Yes Corrected now

GiRTh 01-12-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11235181)
What is the correct response?

There is no correct response. Its just sad to see the same thing over and over again.

How many think she over reacted? We should start a poll

arista 01-12-2022 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11235150)
I dont know how we have got to 4 pages and it is still unchanged :laugh:

Sure
Corrected now

GiRTh 01-12-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11235172)
we do only have one side of the story

that is a fact

if it isnt please post the other side

You're correct. We do only know one side.

arista 01-12-2022 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11235189)
There is no correct response. Its just sad to see the same thing over and over again.

How many think she over reacted? We should start a poll


Ngozi Fulani, chief executive of Sistah Space
did nothing wrong,


https://www.itv.com/news/2022-11-30/...ally-came-from

Redway 01-12-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11235182)
:joker:

the lady who resigned is a white English lady who worked for the Queen Consort

the women making all the fuss is a Black woman who works at some charity in Hackney

There's a difference between politely asking someone of their heritage in an appropriate space and doing it in a way that's blatantly intentioned as racist/telling her that 'her kind isn't welcome.' If you knew what the name Ngozi means and who the Igbo people really are/how gifted they are you wouldn't be so quick to write her off as just some next black woman from Hackney but you shouldn't write off/indirectly-gaslight people of colour relating their experiences of racism anyway. Your comparison between a white English lady and a "snowflake" black woman (black people have been and go through too much to ever be snowflake-y; that's a white Gen.-Z thing, not something that applies to enterprising and hard-working black people with a lifetime of unnecessary discrimination to boot) in terms of who you think's more reliable is absolutely disgusting. I know you're fond of saying things to bait but at some point you're going to have to sit back and realise how shameful some of your comments and your wilful ignorance are.

Oliver_W 01-12-2022 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11235207)
There's a difference between politely asking someone of their heritage in an appropriate space and doing it in a way that's blatantly intentioned as racist/telling her that 'her kind isn't welcome.'

How is asking someone's heritate the same as saying they're not welcome?

Redway 01-12-2022 11:14 AM

arista:

"Royal aide to Prince William resigns after alleged racism"

^ that sells the story well enough and that's all you need to say for the title.

You're going to have to ignore what other people are bait-suggesting about us only having one side of the story. We've read/seen enough.

Crimson Dynamo 01-12-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 11235211)
arista:

"Royal aide to Prince William resigns after alleged racism"

^ that sells the story well enough and that's all you need to say for the title.

You're going to have to ignore what other people are bait-suggesting about us only having one side of the story. We've read/seen enough.

is that the Royal "we"?

Oliver_W 01-12-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11235213)
is that the Royal "we"?

Reddy's suggested title is fine - Lady SH did step down, and the racism is alleged.

rusticgal 01-12-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11235180)
No.

People can wear what they like without having to explain themselves. That lady could wear clothing which originates from any culture, and it wouldn't give people the right to question her.

Of course you can wear what you like...however if you were making small talk to a person you have never met before and he is wearing a Kilt...would it not be an inevitable question to ask what part of Scotland are you from??
Are you not considered to be making a statement if you are in the National attire of a country?
The woman was 89...it was time for her to step down but how sad that after all these years of service she will be remembered as being 'Racist'...It has been a complete over reaction...and it seems her apology just is not good enough.

Redway 01-12-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11235210)
How is asking someone's heritate the same as saying they're not welcome?

There's only so far one can really go with people who are committed to disregarding/ignoring the nuances of racism and try to justify it with literal word-logic (I'm not saying you're prejudiced by any means but this evidently isn't a thing you have much experience of, whether directly or as a white person who's experienced enough in subtle racism and how it comes about). I'd candidly say attitudes like this are part of the problem but no-doubt everything I say will be twisted and asked to be supported with statistical studies proving that asking someone about their heritage in such a disrespectful way (not just in any context/for the sake of genuinely wanting to know but to be racist) is, indeed, racist so I am going to have to cap off this discussion at some point before it becomes too nonsensical and gaslight-y and anyone who sees the patent offence in this is called a paranoid conclusion-jumper.

Redway 01-12-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11235166)
Would it be racist to ask Cliff Richard, which part of England he came from?

By this logic, it would. That's how silly you are and this is
.

Asking a question is not racism. We ask questions as humans to find out information.

The rest of the World is laughing at how silly you are.

By all grounds of logic one would have to account for the fact that "English" isn't a race and that there's a very specific issue of black people being asked that question with blatantly-racist intentions at play. If you're from a different world or don't have much real experience with black friends/racism and whatnot it's quite alright not to get it or understand completely but it's not okay to indirectly gaslight this woman just because her experience of (not even very subtle) racism doesn't resonate with your understanding of racism as a middle-aged white man from Hull. Chances are it most-definitely won't but there's a way to hold space for people talking about things you don't fully understand without calling them over-sensitive snowflakes.

arista 01-12-2022 11:42 AM

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