Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11274782)

Also I read that Irish people should be offended by her using the name Seamus Finegan, no idea why unless you think naming an Irish character with a common Irish name is offensive. It isn't.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274784)

This is how stupid it's become now ,I hadn't actually heard about the Irish name wow :rolleyes: .

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11274785)

Also apparently because he blows stuff up regularly when doing spells, she's doing the Irish IRA trope.... ffs [emoji28]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274776)

They're goblin characters in a bank in a fantasy fictional world,there was nothing offensive about them. And keep getting personal that's fine with those blinkers firmly on your head ,and cloth covering your ears.

If you think it's ok to call JK Rowling a "Nazi" just because ...... then that's on you. Loads of people have all the freedom of speech when they send her hate and all jumped on the bandwagon in their cult fashion. Clapping like a seal is exactly what all these people are doing. So you're just projecting your own behaviour there.

If this person truly believed JK Rowling was a 'nazi' then why did he immediately backpedal like a pathetic weasel. If all the evidence is there that JK Rowling is this 'horrible antisemitic person ' , then surely a threat of a lawsuit wouldn't matter to him ? . To me it showed he had nothing to back up his accusations so he scurried away like a scared little pest .

If JK Rowling is so dangerous then why has her franchise blocked her ,and trying to erase her ?. Twitter was flooded with the most vulgar comments towards her , funny how non of them were scared of her :hee:.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11274781)

"Google it, I'm not here to educate you."

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274786)

:umm2::facepalm: people need serious help for their minds to even go there in the first place, there's something wrong with them.

Originally Posted by Tom4784 (Post 11274846)

The only person in this topic calling her a nazi is literally you and you're huffing on your own fumes getting increasingly mad about it.

There are jewish people who take issue with how the goblins are presented. There's been a lot of discussion on it and you are losing your **** over it in a way that comes across as deranged. Would you be saying the same if her views didn't make you feel like they validated your own? I don't think you would.

Most of this post is just your typical 'no, u' projection that I've come to expect from the likes of you.

Also you have no idea what freedom of speech is and what it entails and it shows.

'WHY DID HE BACKPEDAL?!?!!'

Okay, i'm going to put this in as simple terms as possible so that even you can understand.

Guy makes a tweet criticising JK's actions. JK's feelings are hurt by being criticised and so she throws her wealth and lawyers about to force an apology for something that ultimately is no different to what many articles say about her. The guy, who I believe was a teenager, is facing financial ruin for criticising a billionaire and is made to backpedal. Clapping seals like yourself cheer on your bully in charge, making out that JK terrorising people with wealth and the law to shield herself from just criticism is a good thing.

Get some self respect.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274853)

Lol You know full well the guy called her a nazi, so why are you now trying to make out i'm the one calling JK Rowling a nazi ??. I'm quoting what he said and you know that you silly sausage.

Why are people taking issue with how the goblins are presented? , what have the goblins got to do with Jewish people?. you can say they take offence till you're blue in the face. But i'm still not getting a clear answer to how fictional characters are offensive to a community of people?.It just seems like another way to cancel JK Rowling . And if anything it's just reinforcing negative stereotypes , the very same stereotypes that people are complaining about which makes no sense.

If he can't handle Rowling retaliating then maybe he shouldn't be on twitter doing what he's doing, he clearly wanted a reaction and he cried when it wasn't the reaction he expected . Maybe he should go back to the school playground and leave the adults to it , as he's clearly too childish. But i'm sure he'll cheer up when he knows he has some supporters who validate his nonsense.

"simple terms" , of course we can't all be as bright and stunning and clever as you . What would we all do on TIBB without your knowledge and bravery. Us mere peasants don't understand anything, you're perfect you have no faults and you never do anything wrong, you never make mistakes Mr saint with a halo . We must bow down and accept any name you give us from "bigot" to "terf" to "cis". You know best !. Enjoy your hill :hee: .

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274860)

Just as i thought you can't actually tell me why the goblins are offensive :conf:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11274782)

Also I read that Irish people should be offended by her using the name Seamus Finnigan, no idea why unless you think naming an Irish character with a common Irish name is offensive. It isn't.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11274785)

Also apparently because he blows stuff up regularly when doing spells, she's doing the Irish IRA trope.... ffs [emoji28]

Originally Posted by Tom4784 (Post 11274772)

Because if it's only happening to what you consider 'a small niche' of the population then it doesn't matter, I guess. Who cares how many trans people die, just as long as you can demonise them to fuel your hysteria?

After all, if you don't think trans people need binning, then you obviously hate women and children, right?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11274782)

Also I read that Irish people should be offended by her using the name Seamus Finnigan, no idea why unless you think naming an Irish character with a common Irish name is offensive. It isn't.

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11274897)

To be honest there are some slightly "iffy" tropes in the books but here's what baffles me (well, it doesn't, it's pretty clear what's going on).

1) People who used to love and express loving Harry Potter now pretending that it was always a problem and they just "didn't notice" until they had an issue with JK rowling's position on gender. They were innocently trudling along, enjoying the wizard books, for years... never once mentioning an issue... and then JK Rowling took a stance they didn't agree with and suddenly she was always a problematic Nazi and they "knew it all along". I mean what's the answer there? Were these people being willfully ignorant before, if all of this is so clear? Or is it, perhaps, that they didn't give a toss about these issues until an issue they care about came up, and the rest is just exaggeration for leverage...

2) People pretending that they don't know that you have to take literature (and all media) in a "come as you are" form based on when it was written - in this case, the 90's and 00's - and not assess it based on current social norms of the present day ... or else you wouldn't be able to read or watch much that wasn't made in the last 5 years. They do of course know this and accept it for plenty of other entertainment ... just not from someone they have an axe to grind with. It's just hypocrisy, there are COUNTLESS authors with far more problematic back catalogues than Rowling but you won't hear a peep about them because it's not about that. It's just ammo for the gender ideology wars. Not one of them genuinely gives a stuff about "Jew coded Goblins" or that there's a character called Cho Chang :idc: ... or at least, they didn't until the last few years. The books have been around for 2 decades.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11274901)

The Goblins With Gold trope is pretty old, and there's nothing in JK's interpretation which makes them Jew-coded.

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11274901)

The Cho Chang "problem" is daft to begin with, I can think of plenty of people with Surnames As First Names.

Even if it is actually "problematic" it's more the fault of the editors than a woman who wrote a character before the days where everything is googleable.

The Goblins With Gold trope is pretty old, and there's nothing in JK's interpretation which makes them Jew-coded.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274860)

Just as i thought you can't actually tell me why the goblins are offensive :conf:. you just keep saying the same thing over again like a broken record, ranting away frothing at the mouth without saying anything of substance.

I think i might buy Hogwarts Legacy :smug: .

I think you should buy this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delusional-...c=1&th=1&psc=1

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11274865)

He won't and he can't, I doubt even he knows "why" they are.

In his mind, it's enough that he told us someone said that they were, that's all the proof we're supposed to need.

He'd never sink to actually substantiating something he said, we're all just meant to believe him, and if we don't ... "google it"

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11274888)

This is a massive misrepresentation of anything that's been said by anyone in this thread. There's no hysteria or even high emotion other than your own. I don't think you "hate" women and children, I just think you're largely indifferent to concerns that aren't directly related to those who you consider to be "the worst off", so you haven't actually given them a second thought.





So "no", then. The available stats on violence against trans people and suicide don't confirm your insistence that it's "rare" for trans people to reach old age because of suicide and murder at all, because you made it up based on a supposition, and not any sort of actual statistics.

Violence against trans people is a huge problem, and suicidality in the demographic is indeed very high as well. No one is pretending it isn't a problem, or that it isn't worth addressing, but your suggestion that most trans people die early violent deaths is simply false or a massive exaggeration for effect. You didn't say these deaths are statistically high amongst trans people compared to other demographics (true), you said that it's "rare" for trans people to make it through life without being murdered or killing themselves (verifiably untrue).

Maybe if you'd focussed a little more on critical thinking, compromise and the ability to cobble together a sound argument that isn't just "getting really angry and aggressive at everyone because that'll show 'em", and a little less on "your character development"...

Originally Posted by Tom4784 (Post 11274983)

What's in it for me to prove anything to you? You're a drone that can't think for themselves and will make out that something isn't true unless someone goes out of their way to prove it to you. A zealot is a zealot, you'll believe your feelings over the facts and so why waste my time trying to convince you of anything? You aren't worth the effort, only the derision.

If you want to delude yourself into thinking that some Jewish people haven't taken issue with the goblins in HP then that's on you, your delusions don't matter to anyone but yourself. You are entitled to your own foolishness.



Again, whether a bunch of people covering their eyes and thinking that something they can't see see doesn't exist believes me or not is irrelevant. Your belief is not required, your input ultimately changes nothing. You are free to be as ignorant as you please.



Just more waffle that ultimately translates into 'I love hearing the sound of my own voice'.

You know what's funny? You tried to make out that I was someone that lacked self awareness, but you in this thread have thrown out the usual excuses to prevent yourself from looking critically at your own view and who else supports it. 'B-But anyone can hijack an event!' Yet I'm the one that lacks self awareness, apparently.

'Violence against trans people and high suicide rates is an issue, but I'm immediately going to downplay both because they don't fit with my world view beyond this basic statement to cover my ass'. Trans people are a 'small niche' after all, and you've made it clear how little you think they matter. How many suicidal trans kids is okay with you, what's the benchmark number of dead children that will make you actually care? That's a rhetorical question, btw, just before you type out another 50 paragraphs of self important waffle.

Your last paragraph, I don't compromise with bigots so why are you trying to make out that I should? No rights have ever been assured or protected by compromising them. Gay rights began with a brick, and we'd have never gotten as far as we have by being asking for rights from those who would do us harm. I'm not going to go around hugging transphobes to make them feel better about themselves when violence and suicide rates against the people they hate is on the ****ing rise. You just keep pushing the narrative that LGBT people should just be accessories to make you feel better about your views, and god forbid they don't support those views. I'm not here for your ****ing benefit, you are not the ****ing main character of the world.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274986)

You only care about the people who agree with you ,I guess the LGBTQ people who disagree with you don't matter ?. Also if love and acceptance is true...why are detransioners called 'quitters' ,and given zero compassion? . And why does the movement try and hide them / brushing their experiences under the carpet??

Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11274986)

"self important waffle" :joker:, some people really need to look in the mirror 🪞 , before they throw that stone around in their pretty little glass house :hee: .

You only care about the people who agree with you ,I guess the LGBTQ people who disagree with you don't matter ?. Also if love and acceptance is true...why are detransioners called 'quitters' ,and given zero compassion? . And why does the movement try and hide them / brushing their experiences under the carpet??.

The ones who acknowledge them are told to "shut up" or labelled "transphobe" ..... simply for having concerns and asking questions. As we're not allowed to do that anymore .

Originally Posted by Tom4784 (Post 11274998)

Detransitioning is rare, and you're only making out that it's 'swept' under the carpet because you ultimately want to push a false narrative that a lot of people regret transitioning when it's not the case.