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Thing is I don't think anyone here actually cares about walk on girls, it's just the pearl clutching and false equivalences that are a bit ott |
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If your daughter is 36 years old I think they're a bit too old for their Dad to be controlling who's looking at them or how they behave |
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I've not once and never will say, "These women shouldn't be selling this as a product or making money from it". I wll never stop saying "I wish it wasn't a viable career path, because I wish the world wasn't full of the sort of men who are buying it". I also know it never will be. But that doesn't mean I'll ever say "Aww it's OK lads it's normal; go ahead." It shouldn't be normalised. It's sad, and gross. I get why people have a visceral objection to that opinion, if they happen to have a creepy gaze themselves, or a wandering hand. Tough. |
I also have zero comprehension of why you think adults can't be exploited, but that's a whole different debate.
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And to say that the casual objectification of women (e.g. in this case, darts walk on girls) has "nothing to do with" the porn and prostitution industries, or to deny that those industries are rife with exploitation of (mostly) young (mostly) women? Come on. It's just objectively the reality of the situation. |
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=709 The Jackpot only has eyes for his 'arras what a pro |
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Do you have any issue with women who perform on stage in skimpy outfits and open their legs during dance routines for example Beyonce? |
QB/TS, I don’t know what sort of company you keep, or what sports premises you hang around in to observe such behaviour but your description of men when attractive adult women appear is totally offensive to decent blokes everywhere.
slimey old geezers smelly old gits dirty old men gross old pervs. fat bastards drinking beer sad gammons gross, perving trogs. hand in their pants ogling sleazeballs. letching nonces, An adult man appreciating an adult woman’s attractiveness wherever they appear isn’t sleazy, it’s normal. It’s also normal to not sit there and fume about objectification, we just carry on with our day/evening, our lives. Nobody got hurt. Sure, there are sleazeballs out there. Some. You either seem to know them all or your unhinged imagination is running away with you. |
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The fact that it's commoditised and commercialised for sports shows? Yes I stand by all of the above. Gross/letching/ogling etc. there's no other way to describe it and -- as TiBB is so fond of reminding everyone -- it's not OK to go around telling people how they should and shouldn't think. Pls respect my opinion that it's disgusting :hee:. As a final thought? Your argument that "no one gets hurt" by the pervasive objectification of women in society - and yes tbh young people in general in society (objectification of young men in for example Hollywood is rife too) - is extremely naive and demonstrably false. A lot of people get hurt. In lots of different ways. Mostly women, mostly teens/young adults, sooo it's unsurprising that as usual no one really cares and happily trots off to mindlessly drift through their banal evening with nary a thought bothering them beyond what's for dinner. I almost envy it, really. |
QB/TS Goody, I'm not 50 yet. Yay! You can spew all you want about gross pervy smelly old fat gammon gits but if anyone participates in the thread and disagrees with your opinion they are being defensive? Okay. :joker:
Do you not find a younger attractive woman nice to look at? Why not? Do you automatically think that those that do are ‘perving’ and are actually ‘turned on’ - which couldn’t be further from the truth personally. There is a huge difference between simply appreciating a woman’s assets and being sexually aroused. Can you describe to me how you assume all these men you have observed are actually ogling and letching and want to have their ‘hand in their pants’, as you say? What are they doing? Are they wriggling in their seats with massive hard - ons? Then I can look out for it the next time I go to one of my classic car events because seemingly I’ve been oblivious. By the way, I was specifically referring to the women at sports events, (not the more damaging issues of objectification) how exactly are they being hurt? |
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The endless, endless conflation of simply "finding women attractive" and "objectifying and commodifying women".
They're not the same thing. If people can't even get their head around that basic concept, I'm not surprised the rest isn't making sense. |
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I would hazard a guess that men who beat up their partners dont actually need a particular excuse..... its not like they go home and think ooo we won today will give it a miss..... what is not classy is looking down your nose at working class people and stereotying them at every opportunity |
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Men and women (even if they're as old as 90) are more likely to find people in their twenties and thirties more attractive than someone that's 50/60 years old. That's just how Human Beings are wired in general, basically nature taking it's course. |
7 pages in and no one is batting for quantum soldier toy boy
rather says it all... :skull: |
Isn't it telling when some people believe so strongly that the point and purpose of posting on a forum, is to get as many people patting them on the back as possible. Telling and tragic.
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What is glaringly obvious to me is we have all missed the point of the walk on girls..
We must look at who the darts world is trying to draw to the game, and I believe we have the darts poster boy, Luke luttler who isnt even 18 yet. So for me darts are trying to get a younger audience, therefore, these 36 year old milf, walk on girls are there for the horny teenagers to ogle , in an effort to draw the closer to the sport.. |
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