thing is theres no positive though at this stage, this is the world cup not a friendly. they need to be better. and are not
same old thing different team, no one can hit a target. we were better and lost cause cant score unless were standing by the goal
roony needs to go

tbh I don't see much potential in Barkley either :laugh: but anything beats Rooney I guess.

Have you ever seen us at previous tournaments? This is possibly one of the best passing sides are have had in years.. The tempo of our play compared to previous years has improved massively.. No one can hit a target? 5 shots on target, 2 of which produced great saves from Sirigu.

It was a good performance, obviously not a good result but the signs are promising. I'm confident we will beat Uruguay, Suarez didn't even come off the bench when they needed a goal meaning he is miles from fitness and they look very ordinary without him. Need to hope Italy beat Costa Rica and then go into a showdown with them in the final game and hope they can't produce the same performance they did earlier today, we are a much better team on paper.

But yeah, going forward we look very good. Our subs didn't offer enough when they came on tonight though.

Ferdinand defending Rooney is embarrassing

We could be in a group with Germany and Portugal

#ComeBackOx :worry:

I felt barkley done well locke, when he came on.
Tried to make things happen.
Forced a save from the keeper once.
Took on players.

Anyone calling that performance dire or same old England have short short memories.. That was one of the most positive & fluid performances i've seen in years, against a giant team too.

Still sure we'll go through

Costa Rica surely aren't and Uruguay lost poorly while we came close to a much much better team

Suarez is the only player who could prevent us

yeah passing is great for once. i mean we cant score. watch all other teams when they get near to goal you know a goal is coming. and even if they miss they do again and score.
england were shooting over and to the left to the right even on corners are miles away. we cant score proper goals its usually always easy ones.
they took chances tonight which is great to see normally they dont but they still cant score, why cause they just panic must be a english thing
the other teams no hesitation when go for goals

His effort on goal was decent to be fair

You cant honestly say we can't score based on this game. We scored a great goal and forced 2 great saves from Sirigu.. we're playing against Italy here, not Peru.

That was a great game. Really enjoyed it. Both teams played well. It could have easily gone the other way.

go away vanessa :fist:

Suarez will definitely be back for our game. He and Uruguay will force it to happen unless he can't even jog.


Also..unpopular opinion, but we probably looked better in the Euros tbh. May not of been "pretty", but the Defense was absolutely brilliant, Gerrard was great and Theo/Welbeck were dynamic as Big Andy also delivered. This team has great promise though, but let's not get too carried away with Barkley..he has huge potential, but he isn't going to change anything drastically by starting right now...nor is Lallana who the media have hyped up ridiculously. Look how great Rooney was at Barkley's age..that was someone who transformed the England team when he burst on the scene...shame he's ****e now lol

Sterling was the great positive and Welbeck/Sturridge threatened. Hopefully those three have a little better luck against Uruguay Shame Adnan didn't wait for England(not like it was ever going to happen anyway"...him,Sterling and Barkley would of been pretty cool to see in a few years.

EDIT: My sig really needs Sterling instead of Rooney, but there are no pics of those three ffs.

can handpick good goals. goal hanging and set peices isnt scoring. the best teams dont need to reply on that.

the main thing about this game is roony is surely finished? anyone agree
for england anyway he needs to go

A goal is a goal, doesn't matter how it goes in as long as it does

I can't believe what i am reading.

Gerrard and Rooney

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English world class at it's finest on display tonight

D:

The talent is there for him to start games but i agree, the occasion is too big to be relying on him to start these games. Would be using him as an impact sub in most games though.

Not too disheartened by that, that was our toughest game and we played alright. On another day we might have got something from that. Time for a strong cuppa before the late game

Are England out or do they get another chance?

england never are good at scoring never have been. goal hanging and corners and free kicks. skill goals are few and far between.
other teams its the other way around. thats down to skill and confidence.
we tried tonight though just couldn't get on target or too weak

Beeb rightfully highlighting Wayne as the trash he is whilst as usual brushing over Stevie and his rubbish passing smh.

What does stevie do exacty???

Can't pass and can't intercept or break up play yet is being played as a holding mid

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Without Wayne and Stevie this England team might not actually be half bad

Still at least 2 games left.

2 more games, but if they lose again they are out.

Not sure why i'm wasting my time getting these but these goals are all recent-ish.. i'm still failing to see your point.

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he wasn't great tonight either.not bad thou

"Goal hanging"

Is this even a thing outside the school playground? :joker:

well i did say a few are ok.

but no way you can say they can score the proof is in every game goign back years and years. we cant follow through never have done.
only now and then it all comes together but its rare thats why england always are frustraing to watch, just dont follow through and thats scoring

England :fist:

Although I am 1/4 Italian so :pipe:

...next game England.

its what you do to people like roony after the game when they play like crap

Just going back 4/5 years we were the highest scorers in the qualifying group stage for the 2010 world cup.. our goal scoring stats were insane. Have you ever watched England before tonight?

dont be patronising. have you ever seen any game by england.
what have they won again? your bigging them up like theire something. the hsitory goign back to winnign the world cup says it all.

the goals themselves say it all. please eduacate yourself and dont be patronising two can do that game

He was trash as usual. Like Wayne some fans think he is a good passer because he hits this Hollywood cross field passes yet is unable to make any sort of meaningful passes that open up a defence whilst also failing to hit his man from 5 yars with any consistency

To make it worse he is playing as a deep lying midfielder. Yet I saw Verrati Pirlo Marchiso etc picking up the ball MANY times between the defence and midfield and turning at will whilst Stevie was nowhere to be seen. Hendersois tripe yet at least he actually attempted to close in on the likes of Pirlo at times whilst Stevie strolls aimlessly around the pitch

How useful would Big Andy have been tonight lads?

At least Stevie is past his prime though Wayne is just a fat waste of space. When I saw Danny get taking off whilst Fatty was left on I felt pissed off and I don't even support England smh

You are mental. This is international football.. an opportunity to win a trophy only comes around every 2 years, it's not like club football where theres 3/4 trophies up for grabs every season.. asking what England have won is just pointless.

You are claiming Sturridges goal tonight shouldn't be classed as a goal because he was goal hanging, not sure i'm the one that needs educating.