Biden's odds now are about where they were this time last week. The massive shift has come this morning from him being favourite, to then Trump being favourite, to then Biden being pretty much back where he started.

In the space of say 5 hours Biden has come full circle, that's all.

and trying to stand proudly with his words ''i've already won''

also him wanting to halt the vote count cause he's aware most mail-ins are likely votes for Biden

go back to trump tower i say, maybe even revive Apprentice if he really wants to stay in spotlights with his fans

I wonder if trump loses, will he resist leaving office? How would that go down?

Well he's already having a melt down and he hasn't even lost yet :skull:

Things are looking a bit better at the moment, so I think Biden is going to squeak it. Whatever happens, the most dispiriting part is that more people have voted for Trump after watching him for 4 years, than in 2016.

Biden has been Obama to become the most voted candidate in the popular vote in American history

I think that's less about him, and more peoples hatred of Trump and voting against him.

speaking of Obama, idk if this had been shared earlier

...or this..?...was in the Twitter thread as well...

Trump must win :clap1:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/c9...c2842a446e.gif

...I can’t let myself believe...

Come on Sleepy Joe, you can do it!

For me, for the mostpart, it just proves that reds vote red and blues vote blue and it doesn't really matter who they stick in the suit.

...I recall watching some documentaries for the last election and it was shown how ‘generations/families etc had always voted for...’...but they were voting differently that time and how they’d never voted in their lives before..and it was because of the person wearing the suit as it were...

Shsssssh. ... don’t wake him !!


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There are quite a lot of signs that this may not be strictly true although it is a good rule of thumb. Take Florida; the leftist $15/hr minimum wage won by 23 points there last night, so I think dems playing it consistently moderate/establishment rather than bold allows reds to not have to think about it.

All of the left/left of centre policies are the most consistently well polled (apart from stuff like gun laws), but the party mechanisms never really allow a candidate to run on them.

i think we in the UK have a tendency to think we are very similar to Americans, and the truth is we are similar to a %.

The problem that america has is that the "less progressive" section of America has a louder voice than it should have in the electoral college and that isnt going to change any time soon

Didn’t Hilary win the popular vote too? Or am I remembering incorrectly

Hilary didn't get to 50% of the total vote though.

i think its because the candidates have been dreadful. Someone will emerge eventually that fires up peoples imaginations

It’s definitely gonna be a scrape, but things are mainly resting on postal voting, which are more than likely Biden voters, so maybe it won’t be Trump after all, thankfully.

My mum used to work in a bookies, and she often remarked how "racist" people from different Eastern European nations were toward one another. She said that one time, some Poles were bitching that Romanians were coming and stealing their jobs :joker: So I guess it could be an American version of that...

To be fair there's no reason to assume Latino people born in the States need to have been worried about a Trump presidency?

look what we had here at the last election..